[cisco-voip] {Fraud?} {Disarmed} Re: CallManager v8 data sheet out

[Fuermann, Jason]

Are we talking about licensing as I know it (on 7.x) or is this some new scheme?

From: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Craig Staffin
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 2:22 PM
To: John Huston
Cc: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
Subject: {Fraud?} {Disarmed} Re: [cisco-voip] CallManager v8 data sheet out

John,

The gripe about 15.x code being licensed is completely unfounded.

I am a consultant so end up dealing with it first hand every day.  Yes it sucks that we now need to go through the process of license activation.  However the only reason that is the case is because of people not following the rules to begin with.

Also as long as the box is ordered correctly to begin with the license is already activated from the factory.

The only people they hurt when they moved to this model were people who simply stole the code to begin with.  The only exception is when a device goes RMA you must work with TAC to get the license rehomed.  However you are already working with them to get a replacement device so they take care of it right away anyway.

Craig

On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 1:36 PM, John Huston <fentonguy2003 at yahoo.com<mailto:fentonguy2003 at yahoo.com>> wrote:
I wouldn't count on it.  Cisco is getting worse than Microsoft about licensing.  Have you tried to run 15.x code?

--- On Thu, 3/4/10, Mark Holloway <mh at markholloway.com<mailto:mh at markholloway.com>> wrote:

From: Mark Holloway <mh at markholloway.com<mailto:mh at markholloway.com>>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CallManager v8 data sheet out
To: "Tanner Ezell" <tanner.ezell at gmail.com<mailto:tanner.ezell at gmail.com>>
Cc: "cisco-voip voyp list" <cisco-voip at puck.nether.net<mailto:cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>>
Date: Thursday, March 4, 2010, 12:00 PM
Hopefully we can still perform the demo install with VMWare.  It's useful for staging and recreating certain configurations.


On Mar 4, 2010, at 7:30 AM, Tanner Ezell wrote:

> I'm not surprised by this and I think we all saw this coming. Cisco's
> not going to let you build a white box vmware server for 1/3th the
> price of their UCS solution and let you use that for production.
>
> What I imagine will happen is eventually Cisco will let you run it on
> boxes with approved specs with an additional 'whitebox vmware'
> license.
>
> On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 8:39 AM, Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca<http://us.mc800.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=lelio@uoguelph.ca>> wrote:
>> I believe it's on UCS only for now. Other VM infrastructure may follow?
>>
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>> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CallManager v8 data sheet out
>>
>> "Cisco Unified Communications Manager 8.0(2) can run on VMware on
>> Cisco UCS B200 M1 and UCS C210 M1 servers" - so I can only run this on
>> VMware if I use Cisco's hardware for the host? WTF?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 8:02 PM, Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca<http://us.mc800.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=lelio@uoguelph.ca>> wrote:
>>>
>>> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/voicesw/ps6788/vcallcon/ps556/ps10662/data_sheet_c78-584298.html
>>>
>>> ---
>>> Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
>>> Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1
>>> (519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)
>>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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