[cisco-voip] {Fraud?} {Disarmed} Re: CallManager v8 data sheet out

[Tanner Ezell]

He's talking about IOS 15.x licensing

On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 3:55 PM, Fuermann, Jason <JBF005 at shsu.edu> wrote:

>  Are we talking about licensing as I know it (on 7.x) or is this some new
> scheme?
>
>
>
> *From:* cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net [mailto:
> cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net] *On Behalf Of *Craig Staffin
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 04, 2010 2:22 PM
> *To:* John Huston
> *Cc:* cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
> *Subject:* {Fraud?} {Disarmed} Re: [cisco-voip] CallManager v8 data sheet
> out
>
>
>
> John,
>
> The gripe about 15.x code being licensed is completely unfounded.
>
> I am a consultant so end up dealing with it first hand every day.  Yes it
> sucks that we now need to go through the process of license activation.
> However the only reason that is the case is because of people not following
> the rules to begin with.
>
> Also as long as the box is ordered correctly to begin with the license is
> already activated from the factory.
>
> The only people they hurt when they moved to this model were people who
> simply stole the code to begin with.  The only exception is when a device
> goes RMA you must work with TAC to get the license rehomed.  However you are
> already working with them to get a replacement device so they take care of
> it right away anyway.
>
> Craig
>
>  On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 1:36 PM, John Huston <fentonguy2003 at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> I wouldn't count on it.  Cisco is getting worse than Microsoft about
> licensing.  Have you tried to run 15.x code?
>
> --- On *Thu, 3/4/10, Mark Holloway <mh at markholloway.com>* wrote:
>
>
> From: Mark Holloway <mh at markholloway.com>
> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CallManager v8 data sheet out
> To: "Tanner Ezell" <tanner.ezell at gmail.com>
> Cc: "cisco-voip voyp list" <cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>
> Date: Thursday, March 4, 2010, 12:00 PM
>
> Hopefully we can still perform the demo install with VMWare.  It's useful
> for staging and recreating certain configurations.
>
>
> On Mar 4, 2010, at 7:30 AM, Tanner Ezell wrote:
>
> > I'm not surprised by this and I think we all saw this coming. Cisco's
> > not going to let you build a white box vmware server for 1/3th the
> > price of their UCS solution and let you use that for production.
> >
> > What I imagine will happen is eventually Cisco will let you run it on
> > boxes with approved specs with an additional 'whitebox vmware'
> > license.
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 8:39 AM, Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca<http://us.mc800.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=lelio@uoguelph.ca>>
> wrote:
> >> I believe it's on UCS only for now. Other VM infrastructure may follow?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ---
> >> Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
> >> Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1
> >> (519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)
> >> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >> Cooking with unix is easy. You just sed it and forget it.
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> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Peter Pauly" <*MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt
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> >
> >> To: "Lelio Fulgenzi" <lelio at uoguelph.ca<http://us.mc800.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=lelio@uoguelph.ca>
> >
> >> Cc: "cisco-voip voyp list" <*MailScanner has detected a possible fraud
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> >
> >> Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2010 8:36:51 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> >> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CallManager v8 data sheet out
> >>
> >> "Cisco Unified Communications Manager 8.0(2) can run on VMware on
> >> Cisco UCS B200 M1 and UCS C210 M1 servers" - so I can only run this on
> >> VMware if I use Cisco's hardware for the host? WTF?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 8:02 PM, Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca<http://us.mc800.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=lelio@uoguelph.ca>>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/voicesw/ps6788/vcallcon/ps556/ps10662/data_sheet_c78-584298.html
> >>>
> >>> ---
> >>> Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
> >>> Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1
> >>> (519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)
> >>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >>> Cooking with unix is easy. You just sed it and forget it.
> >>>                               - LFJ (with apologies to Mr. Popeil)
> >>>
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