[cisco-voip] can't get Unity Connection 7.1.3ES11 to register to CUCM v7.1.5b(SU2)

Pat Hayes pat-cv at wcyv.com
Tue Jan 25 18:21:35 EST 2011


To dispel a few rumors:

1. The order of CUCM nodes listed on UC (or Unity) does not need to match
the callmanger group of the device pool the ports are in. UC/Unity will
happily register to whatever server it has listed first as long as it is a
valid/active server. You might want to match the order for the sake of
consistency, but there is no technical need to.

2. IP addresses of CUCM nodes can be updated without deleting anything. Port
Group -> Edit -> Servers.

3. The application server entry is not required for the ports to register /
take calls, that is primarily used for AXL integrations.

For the actual problem of port registrations, here is what I usually
recommend checking out:

a. Device names - CUCM automatically adds the "-VI<port>" suffix to the port
names, but UC does not, this often leads to mis-configs. Ensure the device
name prefix defined on the port group page exactly matches CUCM and ends in
"-VI".

b. Servers can ping each other and don't have traffic being ACL'd /
traversing a firewall

c. Port security - the security mode for each port in UC should (unless
otherwise desired) be set to "non-secure", the device security mode for each
port in CUCM should be "non secure voice mail port".

d. The CUCM nodes listed under the port group on UC - ensure each is listed
by IP address, the skinny port has not been modified from port 2000, the TLS
port is 2443, and the server type is listed as CUCM (not CUCME). Also verify
that each of these CUCM nodes has the callmanager service activated and
running (are other phones registered to it, can you telnet to port 2000,
etc).

e. For new installs where we have the luxury, reboot everything :-)

If all of that checks out, you've pretty well checked everything you can
config wise (at least as far as is necessary for port registration) and
would be well justified in opening a TAC case. If you want to pursue it
yourself, the next step would likely be gathering traces from UC (MiuSkinny)
and/or CUCM (detailed ccm). You could also try your luck with a packet
capture filtered on the IP addresses of the servers involved.

-Pat


On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 2:20 PM, Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca> wrote:

> That's what I used to create them. I don't think I have to recreate them.
> Let's hope not. ;)
>
>
> ---
> Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
> Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1
> (519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> Cooking with unix is easy. You just sed it and forget it.
>                               - LFJ (with apologies to Mr. Popeil)
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From: *"ccieid1ot" <ccieid1ot at gmail.com>
> *To: *"Lelio Fulgenzi" <lelio at uoguelph.ca>
> *Cc: *cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
> *Sent: *Tuesday, January 25, 2011 2:12:57 PM
>
> *Subject: *Re: [cisco-voip] can't get Unity Connection 7.1.3ES11 to
> register to CUCM v7.1.5b(SU2)
>
> Try removing and adding the VM ports through the CCM VM wizards.
>
> On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 1:00 PM, Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca> wrote:
>
>> tried my admin account. didn't work. :(
>>
>>
>> ---
>> Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
>> Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1
>> (519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)
>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> Cooking with unix is easy. You just sed it and forget it.
>>                               - LFJ (with apologies to Mr. Popeil)
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From: *"ccieid1ot" <ccieid1ot at gmail.com>
>> *To: *"Lelio Fulgenzi" <lelio at uoguelph.ca>
>> *Sent: *Tuesday, January 25, 2011 1:54:10 PM
>>
>> *Subject: *Re: [cisco-voip] can't get Unity Connection 7.1.3ES11 to
>> register to CUCM v7.1.5b(SU2)
>>
>> Oh, just the ccmadministrator is fine.
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 12:53 PM, Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca>wrote:
>>
>>> In CUCM v7:
>>>
>>> system > application server > add
>>>
>>> I select Unity Connection and there are required fields, name, ip address
>>> and the application user.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ---
>>> Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
>>> Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1
>>> (519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)
>>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>> Cooking with unix is easy. You just sed it and forget it.
>>>                               - LFJ (with apologies to Mr. Popeil)
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>> *From: *"ccieid1ot" <ccieid1ot at gmail.com>
>>> *To: *"Lelio Fulgenzi" <lelio at uoguelph.ca>
>>> *Cc: *"davidytk" <davidytk at netvigator.com>, cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
>>>  *Sent: *Tuesday, January 25, 2011 1:47:25 PM
>>>
>>> *Subject: *Re: [cisco-voip] can't get Unity Connection 7.1.3ES11 to
>>> register to CUCM v7.1.5b(SU2)
>>>
>>> Not following on which userID?
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 12:44 PM, Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca>wrote:
>>>
>>>> which userID did you select?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ---
>>>> Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
>>>> Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1
>>>> (519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)
>>>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>>> Cooking with unix is easy. You just sed it and forget it.
>>>>                               - LFJ (with apologies to Mr. Popeil)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>> *From: *"ccieid1ot" <ccieid1ot at gmail.com>
>>>> *To: *"Lelio Fulgenzi" <lelio at uoguelph.ca>
>>>> *Cc: *"davidytk" <davidytk at netvigator.com>, cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
>>>>  *Sent: *Tuesday, January 25, 2011 1:42:35 PM
>>>>
>>>> *Subject: *Re: [cisco-voip] can't get Unity Connection 7.1.3ES11 to
>>>> register to CUCM v7.1.5b(SU2)
>>>>
>>>> Yes, it's needed.  I couldn't get vm ports to register with the wrong IP
>>>> of UC server.  ;)
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 12:36 PM, Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Is this really necessary for simple integration? I thought something
>>>>> like this was needed for visual voicemail or something like that. I mean, I
>>>>> can try it, just wondering is all.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ---
>>>>> Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
>>>>> Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1
>>>>> (519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)
>>>>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>>>> Cooking with unix is easy. You just sed it and forget it.
>>>>>                               - LFJ (with apologies to Mr. Popeil)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>> *From: *"ccieid1ot" <ccieid1ot at gmail.com>
>>>>>
>>>>> *To: *"Lelio Fulgenzi" <lelio at uoguelph.ca>
>>>>> *Cc: *"davidytk" <davidytk at netvigator.com>, cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
>>>>> *Sent: *Tuesday, January 25, 2011 1:27:11 PM
>>>>>
>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [cisco-voip] can't get Unity Connection 7.1.3ES11 to
>>>>> register to CUCM v7.1.5b(SU2)
>>>>>
>>>>> Did you add the UC in CUCM under application server?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 10:16 AM, Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> *phew*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> this has got to be the best support line I've ever read on CCO.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>> *Supported Version Combinations for Cisco Unity Connection and Cisco
>>>>>> Unified Communications Manager*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cisco Unity Connection 2.x and Later
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any version of Cisco Unity Connection 2.x or later is supported for
>>>>>> use with any version of Cisco Unified CM 4.1(3) or later.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> from:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/customer/docs/voice_ip_comm/connection/compatibility/matrix/cucsccpmtx.html
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>> Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
>>>>>> Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1
>>>>>> (519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)
>>>>>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>>>>> Cooking with unix is easy. You just sed it and forget it.
>>>>>>                               - LFJ (with apologies to Mr. Popeil)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>> *From: *"Lelio Fulgenzi" <lelio at uoguelph.ca>
>>>>>> *To: *"davidytk" <davidytk at netvigator.com>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Cc: *cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
>>>>>> *Sent: *Monday, January 24, 2011 11:12:21 AM
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [cisco-voip] can't get Unity Connection 7.1.3ES11 to
>>>>>> register to CUCM v7.1.5b(SU2)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yeah, that's my next thing to check. I've always seen pretty good
>>>>>> compatibility across versions since it's SCCP and not CTI, but you never
>>>>>> know. If that's the case, we'll have a bit of trouble on our hands. ugh.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>> Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
>>>>>> Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1
>>>>>> (519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)
>>>>>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>>>>> Cooking with unix is easy. You just sed it and forget it.
>>>>>>                               - LFJ (with apologies to Mr. Popeil)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>> *From: *"davidytk" <davidytk at netvigator.com>
>>>>>> *To: *"Lelio Fulgenzi" <lelio at uoguelph.ca>, "Mac GroupStudy" <
>>>>>> mac.groupstudy at gmail.com>
>>>>>> *Cc: *cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
>>>>>> *Sent: *Monday, January 24, 2011 11:03:35 AM
>>>>>> *Subject: *RE: [cisco-voip] can't get Unity Connection 7.1.3ES11 to
>>>>>> register to CUCM v7.1.5b(SU2)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Hi Lelio
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Have you checked Cisco website for different version for Unity
>>>>>> Connection (7.1.3) with CUCM (7.1.5). Does UC need to upgrade to 7.1.5
>>>>>> version also ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>
>>>>>> David
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  ------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:* cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net [mailto:
>>>>>> cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net] *On Behalf Of *Lelio Fulgenzi
>>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, January 24, 2011 11:57 PM
>>>>>> *To:* Mac GroupStudy
>>>>>> *Cc:* cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] can't get Unity Connection 7.1.3ES11 to
>>>>>> register to CUCM v7.1.5b(SU2)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks again. I modified the port group "server" settings
>>>>>> appropriately. I still get errors however:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Failure reason: ErrorReceivedErrorFromSkinnySocket.
>>>>>> ProcessData=>0x80045A00
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I did check the security settings and as far as I can tell, it's OK.
>>>>>> Everything is unsecured. Weird, I know the subs work cause I'm registering
>>>>>> phones to them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'll update once I find more.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>> Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
>>>>>> Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1
>>>>>> (519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)
>>>>>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>>>>> Cooking with unix is easy. You just sed it and forget it.
>>>>>>                               - LFJ (with apologies to Mr. Popeil)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  ------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From: *"Mac GroupStudy" <mac.groupstudy at gmail.com>
>>>>>> *To: *"Lelio Fulgenzi" <lelio at uoguelph.ca>
>>>>>> *Cc: *cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
>>>>>> *Sent: *Monday, January 24, 2011 10:24:30 AM
>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [cisco-voip] can't get Unity Connection 7.1.3ES11 to
>>>>>> register to CUCM v7.1.5b(SU2)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On the IP address change question; I don't recall having to do that
>>>>>> but it certainly seems you should be able to. As I recall (again, I don't
>>>>>> have one in front of me) there is also an advanced port group settings under
>>>>>> "Edit" maybe?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On your registration issue, no chance one side is set to secure and
>>>>>> the other is not? The reason I ask is I have seen DMA come up with some
>>>>>> weird results based on what it should have been.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >Mac
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 10:17 AM, Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ok, i lied, they are passing the test on Connection but still not
>>>>>> showing registered....
>>>>>>
>>>>>> hmmmmm
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>> Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
>>>>>> Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1
>>>>>> (519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)
>>>>>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>>>>> Cooking with unix is easy. You just sed it and forget it.
>>>>>>                               - LFJ (with apologies to Mr. Popeil)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  ------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From: *"Lelio Fulgenzi" <lelio at uoguelph.ca>
>>>>>> *To: *"Mac GroupStudy" <mac.groupstudy at gmail.com>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Cc: *cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Sent: *Monday, January 24, 2011 10:13:44 AM
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [cisco-voip] can't get Unity Connection 7.1.3ES11 to
>>>>>> register to CUCM v7.1.5b(SU2)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks, that has bitten me before (um, like five minutes before ;),
>>>>>> but I fixed that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Turns out I used the publisher IP address instead of the subscriber's
>>>>>> IP address. Not sure why that would make a difference, but I'm guessing
>>>>>> because it was different than the list of subscribers in the device pool?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyways, I got them to register now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm not sure I don't like the fact that I can't change the IP address
>>>>>> of a port group once created. At least in Unity 4 you could edit the
>>>>>> integration.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is there a way to edit the IP address of a port group in Connection?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>> Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
>>>>>> Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1
>>>>>> (519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)
>>>>>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>>>>> Cooking with unix is easy. You just sed it and forget it.
>>>>>>                               - LFJ (with apologies to Mr. Popeil)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  ------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From: *"Mac GroupStudy" <mac.groupstudy at gmail.com>
>>>>>> *To: *"Lelio Fulgenzi" <lelio at uoguelph.ca>
>>>>>> *Cc: *cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
>>>>>> *Sent: *Monday, January 24, 2011 10:10:05 AM
>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [cisco-voip] can't get Unity Connection 7.1.3ES11 to
>>>>>> register to CUCM v7.1.5b(SU2)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is something that you have probably looked at but I have seen it
>>>>>> bite people many, many times: The Port Name Prefix on the Unity side must
>>>>>> only be the name and not include the port number. It must also be identical
>>>>>> to how it is defined on the CUCM side. Again, I am sure you are well aware
>>>>>> of this but "I's" and "1's" and even "t's" run together some times.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ex. Pod1-UM1-VI1 as a port name would be listed as a Port Prefix name
>>>>>> on the UC side as Pod1-UM1-VI (note the 1 is dropped).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 9:49 AM, Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm having problems getting Unity Connection 7.1.3ES11 voice mail
>>>>>> ports to register to CUCM v7.1.5b(SU2). I've created the phone system, phone
>>>>>> port groups and added the ports and all looks good, but they don't show as
>>>>>> registered on the CallManager server.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As background, I've imported a DMA from my 4.1(3) server into my
>>>>>> 7.1.5b server, so all the voice mail port names and extensions are the same.
>>>>>> I don't see this as being an issue though, since Connection is pointing at a
>>>>>> different IP address.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Unity Connection server and v7 CallManager server are on the same
>>>>>> VLAN so there should be no ACL issues at hand. I tried a few restarts but no
>>>>>> luck.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ideas before I open a TAC case? This stuff has always been simple.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>> Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
>>>>>> Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1
>>>>>> (519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)
>>>>>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>>>>> Cooking with unix is easy. You just sed it and forget it.
>>>>>>                               - LFJ (with apologies to Mr. Popeil)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>> Contracts Officer
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>>>>>> (v) (860) 553-3521
>>>>>> (m) (860) 303-2617
>>>>>> (f) (775) 522-2740
>>>>>> contracts at insynctraining.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>> --
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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