[cisco-voip] Cisco ATA 187 and connection plar

Anthony Kouloglou akoul at dataways.gr
Thu May 5 10:09:03 EDT 2011


Hi all,
it does not work with ATA187 :-(
I don't know if there is a way to overcome the problem.
I am really desperate.
Why can't cisco create a sip dial rule that works with that?
ATA 187 is from the same vendor that makes the Call Manager: CiSCO!!
You may have tones of them in places that you want that feature 
(elevators, lobbys, bathrooms).
It is really hard to believe...


On 4/5/2011 18:02, Ryan Ratliff wrote:
> I don't know much at all about the ATA 187 but nothing in the Admin 
> Guide leads me to believe it's a feature the ATA supports itself.
>
> The data sheet did have the words "dial plan" on it but I have no idea 
> what that specifically references.  I'd say you are in the realm of 
> try it and see if it works or not.
>
> If it doesn't work and is a feature you need then you need to get in 
> touch with your account team to have them get a feature request in for 
> the ATA.
>
> -Ryan
>
> On May 4, 2011, at 10:49 AM, Anthony Kouloglou wrote:
>
> Hi Ryan,
> what do you mean "to be configured on the ATA itself" ?
> Is it possible to configure this way an ATA 187?
>
> On 4/5/2011 17:46, Ryan Ratliff wrote:
>> On a VG where you configure dial-peers you can configure 'connection 
>> plar' on the voice-port just as you would on any other router that is 
>> not controlled by CUCM.
>>
>> The ATA is the tricky one.  It likely did not exist at the time that 
>> doc was written and so if it supports SIP dial rules from CUCM it'll 
>> work.  If it doesn't then any plar functionality would have to be 
>> configured on the ATA itself.
>>
>> -Ryan
>>
>> On May 4, 2011, at 10:27 AM, Lelio Fulgenzi wrote:
>>
>> According to that doc:
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> *Note *Only Cisco Unified IP Phones 7940/41, 7960/61, and 7970/71 
>> support PLAR for SIP.
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Guess that means if you need analog PLAR, you need VG224/202/204 
>> running something else other than SIP?
>>
>> Good to know.
>>
>> ---
>> Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
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>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> *From:*"Ryan Ratliff" <rratliff at cisco.com <mailto:rratliff at cisco.com>>
>> *To:*"Anthony Kouloglou" <akoul at dataways.gr <mailto:akoul at dataways.gr>>
>> *Cc:*"cisco-voip at puck-nether.net <mailto:cisco-voip at puck-nether.net>" 
>> <cisco-voip at puck.nether.net <mailto:cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>>
>> *Sent:*Wednesday, May 4, 2011 10:22:34 AM
>> *Subject:*Re: [cisco-voip] Cisco ATA 187 and connection plar
>>
>> SIP phones don't signal offhook to CUCM in the same way SCCP phones 
>> do so there is no opportunity for CUCM to treat it as a call with no 
>> dialed number.
>>
>> For SIP you need to configure dial rules.
>> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/admin/7_1_2/ccmsys/a03adial.html#wpmkr1039674
>>
>> -Ryan
>>
>> On May 4, 2011, at 9:06 AM, Anthony Kouloglou wrote:
>>
>> Hi, i have followed cisco recommendations to simulate hot line 
>> support for CUCM 7.1.5.
>> These recommendations are:
>> created a blank translation pattern that has a partition that is 
>> included only in a css that a few devices have.
>> This TP, has an Called Party Transform mask mask of a target DN.
>> So, when, one of these phones go offhook, it matches this TP and 
>> dials the appropriate number.
>> But this does not seem to work with ATA 187.
>> Is does nothing when picking up the phone.
>> Does it has to do with SIP?
>> Has anyone tried it before?
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