[cisco-voip] Phones-Life expectancy

Fri Oct 7 11:56:43 EDT 2011

um, tell us more about this paging in CUE...... 

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Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A. 
Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1 
(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN) 
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- LFJ (with apologies to Mr. Popeil) 

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From: "Paul" <asobihoudai at yahoo.com> 
To: "Lelio Fulgenzi" <lelio at uoguelph.ca> 
Cc: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net, "Neal Haas" <nhaas at co.fresno.ca.us>, "SouthEastTexasTelecom" <SETXTelecom at att.net>, "Scott Voll" <svoll.voip at gmail.com> 
Sent: Friday, October 7, 2011 11:53:18 AM 
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Phones-Life expectancy 

Yeah, I remember you asking too....but we can still whine and moan as customers always do.. Heh. 

Actually, the latest CUE does paging! I almost forgot about that... so as long as you're willing to purchase a CUE module in the future you might have Cisco Paging w/o CCME. 

Maybe I'm getting some product confused, wouldn't be the first time, but I could've sworn that I saw that feature upcoming on some partner slides. 

From: Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca> 
To: Paul <asobihoudai at yahoo.com> 
Cc: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net; Neal Haas <nhaas at co.fresno.ca.us>; SouthEastTexasTelecom <SETXTelecom at att.net>; Scott Voll <svoll.voip at gmail.com> 
Sent: Friday, October 7, 2011 8:27 AM 
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Phones-Life expectancy 

I asked the same question. CCME and CUCM are entirely differ ent products. I believe CCME was a different acquisition. When I asked a while ago, I was told the two are for different markets and will not likely ever be feature paired. 

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Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A. 
Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1 
(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN) 
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 
Cooking with unix is easy. You just sed it and forget it. 
- LFJ (with apologies to Mr. Popeil) 

From: "Paul" <asobihoudai at yahoo.com> 
To: "Neal Haas" <nhaas at co.fresno.ca.us>, "SouthEastTexasTelecom" <SETXTelecom at att.net>, "Scott Voll" <svoll.voip at gmail.com> 
Cc: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net 
Sent: Friday, October 7, 2011 11:06:58 AM 
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Phones-Life expectancy 

Paging over the phones works *great* under CCME! 

...which always bugged me why CCME could do it so well but not CCM. . . *shrug* 

From: "Haas, Neal" <nhaas at co.fresno.ca.us> 
To: SouthEastTexasTelecom <SETXTelecom at att.net>; 'Scott Voll' <svoll.voip at gmail.com> 
Cc: "cisco-voip at puck.nether.net" <cisco-voip at puck.nether.net> 
Sent: Friday, October 7, 2011 7:21 AM 
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Phones-Life expectancy 

Cisco is great compared to the Nortel System and a Siemens system I used to run. Much easier to manage, 

Now the Nortel junk system, when we replaced the Nortel phones of 25 and 32 years of usage. The Customers were dancing in the streets! All the functionality they gained! Why would you have one button for answering and another for hang-up? I asked this to the (NOW BANKRUPT) VP of sales for Nortel, his answer was “why would you want that functionality?” Nortel who? 

So Now I have phones that are going to last ONLY 10 to 12 years instead of 25 years, but I have phones that have 100 times the functionality. To be honest I wish that they would only last 8, I want to refresh every 8 to 10 years. 

The only complaint I have against Cisco is the paging over the phones………poor 

Neal Haas 

From: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of SouthEastTexasTelecom 
Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 11:08 PM 
To: 'Scott Voll' 
Cc: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net 
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Phones-Life expectancy 

And should I WANT my phone system doing any APPS??? HMMM that’s scary…..;) 

As for any PC, etc integration, that’s one thing..having the phones on the NETWORK?? Ahhhhhhhh can we say…..(no I am not going to post that word on a public forum! J ) UP???? 

From: Scott Voll [mailto:svoll.voip at gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 1:06 PM 
To: SouthEast Texas Telecom 
Cc: Nate VanMaren; Mark Pratt; cisco-voip at puck.nether.net 
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Phones-Life expectancy 

cisco pat answer...... But your not talking about a phone any longer.... your talking about a computer that looks like a phone. How long do you expect to get out of your desktop? Can the old ROLM do xml / apps / etc? 

I'm not saying I agree...... but that's what cisco says.. ;-) 

Scott 

On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 10:58 AM, SouthEast Texas Telecom < SETXTELECOM at att.net > wrote: 

Which is POOR….an Avaya, ROLM or Nortel will last 15-20 years…POOR ROI!!!! 

Chris 

From: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net [mailto: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net ] On Behalf Of Nate VanMaren 
Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 11:58 AM 
To: Mark Pratt; cisco-voip at puck.nether.net 
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Phones-Life expectancy 

A Cisco product manager for the some of the phones said they design the phones to last 10-12 years of normal use. 

-Nate 

From: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net [mailto: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net ] On Behalf Of Mark Pratt 
Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 10:48 AM 
To: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net 
Subject: [cisco-voip] Phones-Life expectancy 

All, 

Anyone got any input into average life expectancy of the 79XX series of phones? 
We have had our 7960’s now for about 5 years and starting to see an upturn in the number of units experiencing failures of different types (and yes they are EOL). 
Any input on newer models? 
I have been googling but did not find any info. I know environment/users have a lot to do with it. Just trying to get a “average” if possible. 

Thanks 
Mark 

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