[cisco-voip] CUCM 8.6 hardware
Ruben Montes (Europe)
ruben.montes at dimensiondata.com
Wed Jan 18 11:14:46 EST 2012
This is what I understood
From: Lelio Fulgenzi [mailto:lelio at uoguelph.ca]
Sent: miércoles, 18 de enero de 2012 17:14
To: Ruben Montes (Europe)
Cc: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net; cisco-voip; Matthew Loraditch; Scott Voll; gr11
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM 8.6 hardware
cool. that explains it well.
from this, if we have a supported blade based VM infrastructure, then we just have to keep UC on separate blades than other third party app VMs.
does that sound right?
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From: "Ruben Montes (Europe)" <ruben.montes at dimensiondata.com<mailto:ruben.montes at dimensiondata.com>>
To: "Lelio Fulgenzi" <lelio at uoguelph.ca<mailto:lelio at uoguelph.ca>>
Cc: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net<mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net>, "cisco-voip" <cisco-voip at puck.nether.net<mailto:cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>>, "Matthew Loraditch" <MLoraditch at heliontechnologies.com<mailto:MLoraditch at heliontechnologies.com>>, "Scott Voll" <svoll.voip at gmail.com<mailto:svoll.voip at gmail.com>>, "gr11" <grccie at gmail.com<mailto:grccie at gmail.com>>
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 11:09:57 AM
Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] CUCM 8.6 hardware
From this link:
http://docwiki.cisco.com/wiki/Unified_Communications_Virtualization_Sizing_Guidelines
To determine which applications may share a physical server, use the following guidelines:
* Application mix on same physical server / vSphere ESXi host limited to "UC with UC only".
* Same rules for UC on UCS TRC, or UC on UCS specs-based, or HP/IBM specs-based.
* Co-residency of UC with 3rd-party application VMs (such as TFTP/SFTP/DNS/DHCP servers, Directories, Groupware, File/print, CRM, VMware vCenter, etc.) is not supported at this time. These applications may be placed on a separate physical server from UC. For UCS B-series, this can be an adjacent blade in the same chassis.
* Co-residency of UC with non-UC Cisco VMs (such as Cisco Nexus 1000V VSM) is not supported at this time. These VMs may be placed on a separate physical server from UC. For UCS B-series, this can be an adjacent blade
Regards,
Ruben
From: Lelio Fulgenzi [mailto:lelio at uoguelph.ca]
Sent: miércoles, 18 de enero de 2012 16:29
To: Ruben Montes (Europe)
Cc: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net<mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net>; cisco-voip; Matthew Loraditch; Scott Voll; gr11
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM 8.6 hardware
where does it say they do not support co-residency with other applications?
not that I don't believe you, I just can't see this in the doc and need to refer to it.
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Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1
(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (ANNU)
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Cooking with unix is easy. You just sed it and forget it.
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From: "Ruben Montes (Europe)" <ruben.montes at dimensiondata.com<mailto:ruben.montes at dimensiondata.com>>
To: "Matthew Loraditch" <MLoraditch at heliontechnologies.com<mailto:MLoraditch at heliontechnologies.com>>, "Scott Voll" <svoll.voip at gmail.com<mailto:svoll.voip at gmail.com>>, "gr11" <grccie at gmail.com<mailto:grccie at gmail.com>>
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Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 9:58:25 AM
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM 8.6 hardware
Yes, but they do not support co-residency with other applications, which leads the customer to having to buy at least two additional IBM/HP servers…
I agree with Scott, I’d like to see soon “true” 3rd party hardware on VMWare support.
… ah, and also a decent consolidation ratio would be nice, not just 1:1…
From: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net<mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net> [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Matthew Loraditch
Sent: miércoles, 18 de enero de 2012 15:54
To: Scott Voll; gr11
Cc: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net<mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net>; cisco-voip
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM 8.6 hardware
They support 3rd Party VMWare as of a few months ago:
http://docwiki.cisco.com/wiki/Specification-Based_Hardware_Support
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Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 9:51 AM
To: gr11
Cc: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net<mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net>; cisco-voip
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM 8.6 hardware
my question is how long is cisco going to mandate the UCS stuff before they start supporting 3rd party hardware on VMWare.... we have a huge VM deployment of HP but I have to tell our server team we have to buy Cisco UCS products...... Doesn't make people very happy :-(
Scott
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 7:35 PM, gr11 <grccie at gmail.com<mailto:grccie at gmail.com>> wrote:
On C class you can use local as well as remote storage, it supports SAN boot installation. I have done a mixed one on C series - VMware installation on internal disks but CUCM is installed on the SAN disks.
On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 12:03 PM, <John.VanLaecke at ghd.com<mailto:John.VanLaecke at ghd.com>> wrote:
C class internal storage, the b class external storage
C class can support 4 UC apps per server
From:
Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca<mailto:lelio at uoguelph.ca>>
To:
Matthew Saskin <msaskin at gmail.com<mailto:msaskin at gmail.com>>
Cc:
"John.VanLaecke at ghd.com<mailto:John.VanLaecke at ghd.com>" <John.VanLaecke at ghd.com<mailto:John.VanLaecke at ghd.com>>, "cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net<mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net>" <cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net<mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net>>, cisco-voip <cisco-voip at puck.nether.net<mailto:cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>>
Date:
18/01/2012 11:00 AM
Subject:
Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM 8.6 hardware
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Quick question re: UCS, do you have to use remote storage or can you use local storage?
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On Jan 17, 2012, at 7:44 PM, Matthew Saskin <msaskin at gmail.com<mailto:msaskin at gmail.com>> wrote:
Depends on your discount, whether you purchase bare-metal from Cisco or direct from HP/IBM, etc. You've also got to factor in VMware costs plus added operational complexity for UCS. That said, ongoing operational costs (eg; smartnet) are much lower for UCS than for bare-metal servers (and on-par with direct manufacturer support for HP/IBM hardware)
That said, I'm a huge proponent of deploying on UCS, b or c-series as appropriate. Of the 20-30 designs I've put together for customers over the past 12-18 months (ranging from <500 phones to 10K+ phones and 1K+ UCCE agents) that actually became deployed projects, all but 1 are deployed on UCS with an exception for a customer that has a rigorous hardware qualification process and won't qualify UCS for use in their data centers.
-matthew
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 7:33 PM, <John.VanLaecke at ghd.com<mailto:John.VanLaecke at ghd.com>> wrote:
The C Class UCS server is cheaper than the bare metal box.
From:
Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca<mailto:lelio at uoguelph.ca>>
To:
Erick Wellnitz <ewellnitzvoip at gmail.com<mailto:ewellnitzvoip at gmail.com>>
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cisco-voip <cisco-voip at puck.nether.net<mailto:cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>>
Date:
18/01/2012 07:16 AM
Subject:
Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM 8.6 hardware
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Ah - well, supported and sold are two different things I guess.
The supported platforms will help if you have the platforms already, but not if you are looking to buy new. I do recall quite a few of them being EOL'ed, especially the H series, but you'd have to check the price list and your account team for availability.
There is always the SWONLY option (which is much cheaper). As far as I know, they are MCS equivalents so they are supported.
Lelio
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Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1
(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (ANNU)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Cooking with unix is easy. You just sed it and forget it.
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From: "Erick Wellnitz" <ewellnitzvoip at gmail.com<mailto:ewellnitzvoip at gmail.com>>
To: "Lelio Fulgenzi" <lelio at uoguelph.ca<mailto:lelio at uoguelph.ca>>
Cc: "cisco-voip" <cisco-voip at puck.nether.net<mailto:cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>>
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 4:08:01 PM
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM 8.6 hardware
I'm getting conflicting information from someone at Cisco is all.
They told me they aren't selling MCS servers any longer.
On 1/17/12, Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca<mailto:lelio at uoguelph.ca>> wrote:
> did it not provide the answers you were looking for? is it not up to date?
>
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> (519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (ANNU)
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> Cooking with unix is easy. You just sed it and forget it.
> - LFJ (with apologies to Mr. Popeil)
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Erick Wellnitz" <ewellnitzvoip at gmail.com<mailto:ewellnitzvoip at gmail.com>>
> To: "Lelio Fulgenzi" <lelio at uoguelph.ca<mailto:lelio at uoguelph.ca>>
> Cc: "cisco-voip" <cisco-voip at puck.nether.net<mailto:cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 3:46:32 PM
> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM 8.6 hardware
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> I've spent more time looking at that document than I care to think about.
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>
>
> On 1/17/12, Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca<mailto:lelio at uoguelph.ca>> wrote:
>> Pretty sure they are. Here are some ref docs
>>
>> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/voicesw/ps6790/ps5748/ps378/prod_brochure0900aecd8062a4f9.html
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>> Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
>> Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1
>> (519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (ANNU)
>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> Cooking with unix is easy. You just sed it and forget it.
>> - LFJ (with apologies to Mr. Popeil)
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Erick Wellnitz" <ewellnitzvoip at gmail.com<mailto:ewellnitzvoip at gmail.com>>
>> To: "cisco-voip" <cisco-voip at puck.nether.net<mailto:cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>>
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 3:30:38 PM
>> Subject: [cisco-voip] CUCM 8.6 hardware
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>> Quick question as I think I've gone and confused myself.
>>
>> Are tehre still options wit hCM 8.6 for non-virtualized environments?
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