[cisco-voip] Cisco ATA 187 and connection plar

Wed May 23 05:45:37 EDT 2012

Hi all,
i have upgraded my ATA 187 to APP187.9-2-3-1, created a blank sip dial 
rule and applied it to the ATAs i wanted to have connection PLAR.
It worked like a champ (i.e. an SCCP :-)

BR
Anthony

On 12-May-11 17:14, Anthony Kouloglou wrote:
> Hi Ryan,
> i have already done that (account team). But i need to have an open TAC.
>
> Regards
> Anthony
>
> On 12/5/2011 16:40, Ryan Ratliff wrote:
>> If the ATA doesn't support using CUCM SIP dial rules then there's not 
>> much you can do aside from looking for alternatives or push your 
>> account team on getting a feature request in.  It doesn't appear the 
>> ATA186 supported connection plar natively either, it just so happened 
>> that the sccp protocol allowed CUCM to handle it.
>>
>> -Ryan
>>
>> On May 11, 2011, at 6:04 PM, Kevin Damisch wrote:
>>
>> Even in the latest guide for 8.5(1), doesn’t look like there is any 
>> ATA 187 support for PLAR.  I’d be curious to try it on a 7942 running 
>> SIP, but don’t have one handy.  Once your TAC engineer sees this 
>> document, I can guarantee the first words out of their mouth will be 
>> “unsupported”. J
>>
>> *Private Line Automatic Ringdown (PLAR)*
>> Configure a phone that is running SIP for Private Line Automatic 
>> Ringdown (PLAR), so when the user goes off hook (or the NewCall 
>> softkey or line key gets pressed), the phone immediately dials a 
>> preconfigured number. The phone user cannot dial any other number 
>> from the phone line that gets configured for PLAR. Because PLAR gets 
>> configured in Cisco Unified Communications Manager Administration as 
>> an empty pattern, it does not get associated with a device or line. 
>> To make the Cisco Unified IP Phone support PLAR, an empty pattern 
>> gets configured in the SIP Dial Rules for a specific line, and the 
>> dial rule then gets applied to the Cisco Unified IP Phone by using 
>> Phone Configuration in Cisco Unified Communications Manager 
>> Administration. For more information on PLAR, see"Configuring Private 
>> Line Automatic Ringdown (PLAR)" 
>> <http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/admin/8_5_1/ccmcfg/b03dn.html#wpxref85834>in"Directory 
>> Number Configuration" 
>> <http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/admin/8_5_1/ccmcfg/b03dn.html#wpxref92209>in 
>> the/Cisco Unified Communications Manager Administration Guide/.
>> <image001.gif>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> *Note*<image003.png>Only Cisco Unified IP Phones 7940/41, 7960/61, 
>> and 7970/71 support PLAR for SIP.
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Kevin
>>
>> *From:*Anthony Kouloglou [mailto:akoul at dataways.gr]
>> *Sent:*Wednesday, May 11, 2011 4:48 PM
>> *To:*Kevin Damisch
>> *Cc:*Matthew Ballard;cisco-voip at puck-nether.net 
>> <mailto:cisco-voip at puck-nether.net>
>> *Subject:*Re: [cisco-voip] Cisco ATA 187 and connection plar
>>
>> Nope!
>> And i am still trying to find out what to do.
>> I will soon open a TAC and see what happens.
>>
>> Anthony
>>
>> On 12/5/2011 12:45 πμ, Kevin Damisch wrote:
>> So, where did this end up?  Has anyone been able to setup the blank 
>> translation pattern method of PLAR for an ATA 187 using the SIP dial 
>> rules?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Kevin
>>
>> *From:*cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net 
>> <mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net>[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net]*On 
>> Behalf Of*Anthony Kouloglou
>> *Sent:*Friday, May 06, 2011 4:23 AM
>> *To:*Matthew Ballard
>> *Cc:*cisco-voip at puck-nether.net <mailto:cisco-voip at puck-nether.net>
>> *Subject:*Re: [cisco-voip] Cisco ATA 187 and connection plar
>>
>> Hi Thanks for the update, and Lelio too,
>> but i do have 3 dozens of ATA 187 since cisco could not provide me 
>> 186 (they were end of sale).
>> They told me that they are replacements for ATA 186.
>> I could expect from them to do the appropriate clarification.
>> I am really, really frustrated.
>>
>> On 6/5/2011 02:50, Matthew Ballard wrote:
>> The VG200 series (VG202, VG204, VG224) as well any Cisco routers with 
>> the appropriate voice ports can be setup to do what you want.  I have 
>> lines in a VG224 setup as SCCP lines in CM, with that very 
>> functionality in place, and it works just fine.
>>
>> Matthew Ballard
>> Network Manager
>> Otis College of Art and Design
>> mballard at otis.edu <mailto:mballard at otis.edu>
>>
>> *From:*cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net 
>> <mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net>[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net]*On 
>> Behalf Of*Anthony Kouloglou
>> *Sent:*Thursday, May 05, 2011 7:09 AM
>> *To:*Ryan Ratliff
>> *Cc:*cisco-voip at puck-nether.net <mailto:cisco-voip at puck-nether.net>
>> *Subject:*Re: [cisco-voip] Cisco ATA 187 and connection plar
>>
>> Hi all,
>> it does not work with ATA187 :-(
>> I don't know if there is a way to overcome the problem.
>> I am really desperate.
>> Why can't cisco create a sip dial rule that works with that?
>> ATA 187 is from the same vendor that makes the Call Manager: CiSCO!!
>> You may have tones of them in places that you want that feature 
>> (elevators, lobbys, bathrooms).
>> It is really hard to believe...
>>
>>
>> On 4/5/2011 18:02, Ryan Ratliff wrote:
>> I don't know much at all about the ATA 187 but nothing in the Admin 
>> Guide leads me to believe it's a feature the ATA supports itself.
>>
>> The data sheet did have the words "dial plan" on it but I have no 
>> idea what that specifically references.  I'd say you are in the realm 
>> of try it and see if it works or not.
>>
>> If it doesn't work and is a feature you need then you need to get in 
>> touch with your account team to have them get a feature request in 
>> for the ATA.
>>
>> -Ryan
>>
>> On May 4, 2011, at 10:49 AM, Anthony Kouloglou wrote:
>>
>> Hi Ryan,
>> what do you mean"to be configured on the ATA itself"?
>> Is it possible to configure this way an ATA 187?
>>
>> On 4/5/2011 17:46, Ryan Ratliff wrote:
>> On a VG where you configure dial-peers you can configure 'connection 
>> plar' on the voice-port just as you would on any other router that is 
>> not controlled by CUCM.
>>
>> The ATA is the tricky one.  It likely did not exist at the time that 
>> doc was written and so if it supports SIP dial rules from CUCM it'll 
>> work.  If it doesn't then any plar functionality would have to be 
>> configured on the ATA itself.
>>
>> -Ryan
>>
>> On May 4, 2011, at 10:27 AM, Lelio Fulgenzi wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> According to that doc:
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> *Note*Only Cisco Unified IP Phones 7940/41, 7960/61, and 7970/71 
>> support PLAR for SIP.
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>
>> Guess that means if you need analog PLAR, you need VG224/202/204 
>> running something else other than SIP?
>>
>> Good to know.
>>
>> ---
>> Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
>> Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1
>> (519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)
>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> Cooking with unix is easy. You just sed it and forget it.
>>                               - LFJ (with apologies to Mr. Popeil)
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> *From:*"Ryan Ratliff" <rratliff at cisco.com <mailto:rratliff at cisco.com>>
>> *To:*"Anthony Kouloglou" <akoul at dataways.gr <mailto:akoul at dataways.gr>>
>> *Cc:*"cisco-voip at puck-nether.net <mailto:cisco-voip at puck-nether.net>" 
>> <cisco-voip at puck.nether.net <mailto:cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>>
>> *Sent:*Wednesday, May 4, 2011 10:22:34 AM
>> *Subject:*Re: [cisco-voip] Cisco ATA 187 and connection plar
>>
>> SIP phones don't signal offhook to CUCM in the same way SCCP phones 
>> do so there is no opportunity for CUCM to treat it as a call with no 
>> dialed number.
>>
>> For SIP you need to configure dial rules.
>> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/admin/7_1_2/ccmsys/a03adial.html#wpmkr1039674
>>
>> -Ryan
>>
>> On May 4, 2011, at 9:06 AM, Anthony Kouloglou wrote:
>>
>> Hi, i have followed cisco recommendations to simulate hot line 
>> support for CUCM 7.1.5.
>> These recommendations are:
>> created a blank translation pattern that has a partition that is 
>> included only in a css that a few devices have.
>> This TP, has an Called Party Transform mask mask of a target DN.
>> So, when, one of these phones go offhook, it matches this TP and 
>> dials the appropriate number.
>> But this does not seem to work with ATA 187.
>> Is does nothing when picking up the phone.
>> Does it has to do with SIP?
>> Has anyone tried it before?
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