[cisco-voip] anyone try solaborate hello?

Thu Feb 1 16:17:50 EST 2018

Just tossing my "ditto" into the ring here with Lelio, and Terry as a
customer from higher education. Budget issues yadda yadda. I think Cisco UC
products are worth it, but I also get asked "what other solution is out
there for XYZ" from time to time, and it definitely helps to know. Some
use-cases are probably small enough that its worth throwing a "boutique"
solution at it.

Sometimes we're not even asked in central IT here - as decentralized as we
are, I wouldn't be surprised to see Lelio's "fluxcollaborator 5000"  show
up in a dean's conference room tomorrow with the expectation to make it
work. Luckily that type of thing is becoming rarer :)

On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 2:49 PM, Terry Oakley <Terry.Oakley at rdc.ab.ca> wrote:

> I will chime in as well.   From a higher ed funded institution (publicly
> funded by tax dollars) the ability to find less costly solutions is always
> at the forefront.   We fortunately are a Cisco shop from VC to network but
> we are constantly under pressure to find a cheaper solution.   That in
> itself causes a lot of dollars to be spent on purchasing a third party
> product and then massaging it to work as intended.   Sometimes the capital
> dollars are easy to solve for the purchase, it is the operational dollars
> that get hard to justify and even harder to acquire and resource.   It is a
> never ending battle to see where and what direction we will go with every
> shrinking budgets.   With so much invested in our infrastructure to date it
> seems odd that that investment would not be valued but sadly it does not
> always seem that way.    Not like it is in the corporate side or what
> appears to be like.
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> Just my 2 (1 ½) cents worth.
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> Terry
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> *Terry Oakley*
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> *From:* cisco-voip [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net] *On Behalf
> Of *Lelio Fulgenzi
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 1, 2018 12:39 PM
> *To:* Anthony Holloway <avholloway+cisco-voip at gmail.com>
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> *Cc:* Cisco VoIP Group <cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] anyone try solaborate hello?
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> I think what you’ll find is that in a higher ed scenario, the ability to
> dictate what products are used doesn’t go as far as in a corporate
> environment.
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> If someone wants a Cisco room based system, they’re shelling out thousands
> of dollars. Even if a business case can be made, the money may simply not
> be there.
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> I was looking at bridging AV solutions with existing PC conferencing
> solution, like Jabber and WebEx from Cisco, and found some interesting HDMI
> to USB streaming devices.
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> But this solution allows someone to participate in the enterprise
> collaboration space, i.e. Spark and WebEx, with an economical solution.
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> I guess I see this as hardware using the existing platforms. I’m ok with
> that. For the most part. Something like HighFive which offers a
> subscription conferencing service, I wouldn’t condone, cause that just
> causes confusion.
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> ---
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> *Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.* | Senior Analyst
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> *From:* Anthony Holloway [mailto:avholloway+cisco-voip at gmail.com
> <avholloway+cisco-voip at gmail.com>]
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 1, 2018 1:27 PM
> *To:* Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca>
> *Cc:* Cisco VoIP Group <cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] anyone try solaborate hello?
>
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> I'm kind of curious to know who on this mailing list would have tried it,
> because this list seems to be made up of mostly people interested in Cisco
> products and technology.  Save for a few people of course, who have an
> indirect Cisco interest.
>
>
>
> Granted, Cisco doesn't always make the first, the best, or the cheapest,
> and alternatives in the market are a good thing, but, from my perspective,
> which is through the eyes of a Cisco Engineer, I would never be installing
> a COTS product which competes directly with Cisco's own offerings.  Be it
> this product, or a Microsoft product.
>
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> Sure, I might see one in the field, but I wouldn't take any responsibility
> for managing it.
>
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> Since Lelio, you're on the customer side, is it different for you?  Do you
> have the freedom of just buying and trying any product you want, regardless
> of manufacturer?  Even when I was on the customer side for a few years, I
> was still a Cisco Engineer, and only worked on Cisco products.  Perhaps you
> wear more hats than just Cisco Engineer, and that's our difference.
>
>
>
> Anyway, just curious.
>
>
>
> By the way, this product actually looks pretty cool and he price is very
> affordable.  So, my above comments are not tied to the product itself, more
> to the idea of 3rd party COTS products competing against Cisco products,
> when viewed from a Cisco Engineer's perspective.
>
> On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 2:13 PM Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca> wrote:
>
> Has anyone tried this product?
>
> https://www.solaborate.com/hello
>
>
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> ---
> Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A. | Senior Analyst
> Computing and Communications Services | University of Guelph
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