[cisco-voip] setting primary phone for Jabber users without a physical phone - licensing

[Anthony Holloway]

You mentioned Primary Phone, so I thought I understood you, but I guess not.

*"If I'm not mistaken, in this case, and, in any case where a primary phone
is not set, more licenses are used then would need to be."*

The primary phone field does not play a role in licensing anymore.  It's
simply the owner user id set on the phone.

As for the workings of UCL:

1 device (regardless of user association) = 1 enhanced*
2 devices with 1 user = 1 enhanced plus
3 - 10 devices all with 1 owner user id = 1 cuwl
11+ devices all with 1 owner user id = 1+ cuwl (e.g., 34 devices + 1 user =
4 cuwl)

*unless you purchased a cheap phone, then it might be basic or essential

Don't forget the borrowing that happens, so technically, a single device
with no user could consume a cuwl license.

E.g., Anthony with no physical phone but does have: CSF + BOT + TAB + TCT
will consume 1 cuwl license, with no primary phone set, just the owner user
id on all 4 devices.

On Mon, Jan 13, 2020 at 2:13 PM Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca> wrote:

> Yes, no DLUs, but there’s still licenses. So, what I was afraid of was
> that instead of one CUWL license, it would use 4 separate enhanced
> licenses. But, I’m guessing because it’s all one userID, it uses the
> license based on the number of devices.
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> So, if I have 4 Jabber devices to one userID, it uses CUWL, but if it uses
> 2 jabber devices, it uses enhanced?
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> *From:* Anthony Holloway <avholloway+cisco-voip at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, January 13, 2020 2:39 PM
> *To:* Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca>
> *Cc:* voyp list, cisco-voip (cisco-voip at puck.nether.net) <
> cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] setting primary phone for Jabber users
> without a physical phone - licensing
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> We have *not* had DLUs since...
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> On Mon, Jan 13, 2020 at 1:38 PM Anthony Holloway <
> avholloway+cisco-voip at gmail.com> wrote:
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> I might be saying something completely crazy here, but the Primary Phone
> field does nothing for you ever since CUCM 9x User Connect Licenses (UCL).
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> Here's what the help says for that field:
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> *Choose the physical phone that will be associated with the application,
> such as IP communicator or Cisco Unified Personal Communicator. When you
> choose a primary phone, the application consumes fewer device license units
> and is considered an "adjunct" license (to the primary phone).*
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> We have had DLUs since 8x, so, unless you're on version 8.x, you can
> ignore this field.
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> On Mon, Jan 13, 2020 at 12:29 PM Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca> wrote:
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> I'm trying to setup an easy to replicate (troubleshoot/reconcile) system
> in place for our Jabber deployment.
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> We've decided to assign each Jabber device type to each user so there's no
> end-user support issues when they want to use it on another device and/or
> move from one device type to another.
>
> If I'm not mistaken, in this case, and, in any case where a primary phone
> is not set, more licenses are used then would need to be. The issue at hand
> here, is what happens when we deploy Jabber without a physical phone?
>
> I'm already finding that the quick/add feature really only works when a
> phone is configured (although I have to work through that). So, I'm
> wondering, is it worthwhile to configure a "dummy" phone for Jabber users
> and set the primary phone for all Jabber clients to this dummy phone? Or
> should I ask them to pick the CSF jabber device as the primary phone for
> example?
>
> What have others done?
>
> Lelio
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