[dev-disc] BOF in Minneapolis??

[Romascanu, Dan (Dan)]

FWIIW, here is the e-mail that I sent after the non-BOF in Vienna. 

Regards,

Dan



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Thomas Narten [mailto:narten at us.ibm.com]
> Sent: 01 October, 2003 4:40 PM
> To: device-discovery at puck.nether.net
> Subject: [dev-disc] BOF in Minneapolis??
> 
> 
> There were plans to host a BOF in Vienna that were canceled at the
> last minute. I have seen no activity since then. Does that mean there
> is no longer any interest in this topic? :-)
> 
> To be clear, I was on the fence about allowing this BOF to go forward
> the last time, as I felt there could have been a lot more mailing list
> discussion and problem statement refinement in advance of the
> BOF. That sort of discussion helps clarify whether there is a need for
> a BOF and/or WG.
> 
> With that in mind, what are people's thoughts on this topic? 
> 
> Thomas
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From: Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
Sent: 22 July, 2003 7:38 AM
To: Ron da Silva
Cc: device-discovery at puck.nether.net
Subject: RE: [dev-disc] Non-BOF Today

Ron,

My rough estimation is that twenty, maybe thirty people were unaware about the cancellation, and came to attend the BOF. At least many of us who were there, do know now about the list, and are subscribed. 

The question is what now? Paul's message and his annexed presentation that was intended to be given to the BOF prompts to a timing issue with the IEEE 802.1ab work (LLDP). By the time of the next IETF meeting, the IEEE work is expected to be at the stage where all major technical issues are resolved. I understand that dev-disc may consider going to different directions than LLDP, but the time pressure is here and the window of opportunity for the IEEE and IETF to work together may be closing. To make things more interesting, the November IETF meeting and IEEE Plenary are scheduled for the same week. 

Let me ask a few questions that come to my mind concerning the relationship between IEEE 802.1ab work and a possible IETF device discovery effort:
- Is the scope of IEEE 802.1ab similar to what would be a possible IETF dev-disc work? The IEEE effort is specifically designed for devices interconnected by IEEE 802  links or networks, what about other types of links? 
- Assuming that the answer to the question above is that there is at least a partial commonality that is worth being pursued, is the extensibility mechanism defined in the IEEE 802.1ab draft appropriate? Would the IETF be interested in defining its own extensions to describe devices, link, port capabilities specific to the IP layer and other IP-based protocols?
- The IEEE 802.1ab scope mentions compatibility with the PTOPO MIB RFC 2922, which is an IETF Proposed Standard. I am not sure about the extent to which this MIB is implemented, but with the LLDP work ongoing, maybe there is interest to look at this MIB for a revision, maybe advancement to Draft, maybe extensions in sync with what the IEEE folks are doing. 

Regards,

Dan




> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ron da Silva [mailto:ron at aol.net]
> Sent: 18 July, 2003 8:45 PM
> To: Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
> Cc: device-discovery at puck.nether.net
> Subject: Re: [dev-disc] Non-BOF Today
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Jul 17, 2003 at 06:02:42PM +0300, Romascanu, Dan (Dan) wrote:
> >    You folks decided to cancel the BOF today, without even 
> a cancellation
> >    message on the message board. That's quite unusual. :-(
> >    I hear a message was posted to this mailing list. As the 
> mailing list
> >    was not in the agenda, many people were not on the list, 
> and thus were
> >    not aware about the cancellation.
> >    As kind of a pay back, do you have the discussions until 
> now archived,
> >    so that people who were interested in this issue, and 
> were not on the
> >    list can catch up?
> 
> Dan - Sorry about the lack of cancellation notice on the 
> message board.
> I simply forgot to post it.  The archives should be available here...
> 
> > device-discovery mailing list
> > device-discovery at puck.nether.net
> > http://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/device-discovery
> 
> -ron
> 

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