[e-nsp] vlan and vman on the same switch

[Erik Bais]

Hi Marcin,

As you have a X450 in the config, you need to put the following configuration change on all the switches:

configure vman ethertype 0x8100

For the newer type switches, there are other VMAN Ethertype options, that setting is however backwards compatible.

That is probably the fix.

Have fun.

Erik

-----Original Message-----
From: Marcin Kuczera [mailto:marcin at leon.pl]
Sent: vrijdag 12 oktober 2012 21:14
To: Erik Bais
Cc: extreme-nsp at puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [e-nsp] vlan and vman on the same switch

On 2012-10-12 20:33, Erik Bais wrote:
> Hi Marcin,
>
> If you want to do this from a single port through the (3) devices to another port at the other side, there are several options.
>
> If the traffic is multiple vlan's.. in that case a VMAN is a good
> option. (make sure you have the same Ethernet frame type in all 3 devices for VMAN's.) If it regular untagged traffic, a single vlan should suffice.

My choice is VMAN, because it will transit several internal customer's VLANs


>
> It is possible to have multiple ports in a vman.. However all tagged
> traffic that you stuff into it, is what you get out of it. Make sure
> that you don't mixed customers their VMAN's, as it will also mix their
> vlan's :-)
No problem about, it will be point-to-point (however protection i.e.
with EAPS will be supported).

> If you have Cisco's on the other side (a trunked port) instruct the customer to prune vlan's and only allow the VLANs they need / want on the other side.   It is also quite possible to create broadcast storms if the customer is having multiple routes to the same locations. Be aware of this ..
>
> Each port that you create for a specific VMAN, should be untagged on ingress/egress.
That is what I want to do, but...
* Slot-1 SummitX450-KTW-PSE.9 # configure vman "lim-test" add ports 1:8 tagged
Error: Port 1:8 cannot be added to vMan lim-test because ports are VLAN members
        and the vMan ethertype is not 0x8100.

lack of knowledge ???

* Slot-1 SummitX450-KTW-PSE.5 # show vman etherType
Vman Primary EtherType    : 0x88a8

I think, that this is ok, I mean, VMAN and VLAN should have different ethertype not to mix them...

Regards,
Marcin



>
> Hope this helps,
> Erik Bais
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: extreme-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net
> [mailto:extreme-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Marcin
> Kuczera
> Sent: vrijdag 12 oktober 2012 19:57
> To: extreme-nsp at puck.nether.net
> Subject: [e-nsp] vlan and vman on the same switch
>
> hello,
>
> could anyone help me with configuring VMAN on EXOS (x450, x650, x670) switches ?
>
> Let's say, that there is a network with number of VLANs, L2 only.
> I want to get a channel, that will be "open" - so at the edges of network, will be added as untagged.
> So, someone connected to edge "untagged" ports will be able to transmit their own VLANs inside.
> I though that VMAN is a good solution here, but I can't add any port to VMAN...
>
> Is it a proper way to do QinQ ? If yes - then what's wrong, if not - what do you recommend ?
>
> Regards,
> Marcin
>
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