[f-nsp] foundry-nsp Digest, Vol 44, Issue 8

Sat Sep 23 17:36:53 EDT 2006

Hi Guys,

Thank you very much! I spoke with our Foundry rep yesterday. He mentioned
that the primary difference between the BigIron RX, MLX and XMR were their
MPLS capabilities..or lack thereof. He said the MLX could only do edge MPLS
duties, whereas the XMR can do core and edge MPLS. We got cut off before he
could explain the difference. Any help is greatly appreciated.

Best Regards,
Jason

P.S.
Can an XMR32000 really outpeform a Juniper T640 in the real world?

On 9/22/06, Gunther Stammwitz <gstammw at gmx.net> wrote:
>
>  Well the cam is really huge and every linecard brings its own cam:
>
>
> show <SSH at CORE1.rb.mainlab.net%3Eshow> cam-partition
> CAM partitioning profile: default
> Slot 1 XPP20SP 0:
> # of CAM device                = 3
> Total CAM Size                 = 524288 entries (36Mbits)
> [...]
>
>
> show memory
> ====================================================================
> NetIron MLX active MP slot 17:
> Total SDRAM:           1073741824 bytes
> Available Memory:       758779904 bytes
> Free Physical Pages:       178649 pages
> [...]
> ====================================================================
> NetIron MLX LP SL 1:
> Total SDRAM:            536870912 bytes
> Available Memory:       236212224 bytes
>
>
> show version
> SL M1: NI-MLX-MR Management Module Active (Serial #: xxxxxx, Part #:
> 31524-100A):
> [...]
> 916 MHz Power PC processor  (version 8003/0101) 166 MHz bus
> 512 KB Boot Flash (AM29LV040B), 32 MB Code Flash (MT28F128J3)
> 1024 MB DRAM
> [...]
> SL 1: NI-MLX-1Gx20-GFX 20-port 1GbE-100FX Module (Serial #: xxxxxx, Part
> #: 31604-001B)
> [...]
> 666 MHz MPC 8541 (version 8020/0020) 333 MHz bus
> 512 KB Boot Flash (AM29LV040B), 16 MB Code Flash (MT28F640J3)
> 512 MB DRAM, 8 KB SRAM, 0 Bytes BRAM
> PPCR0: 768K entries CAM, 8192K PRAM, 2048K AGE RAM
>
>
> I don't see where there's a problem with number of routes and so on
> because you are saying that it is (only) an enterprise box. Sure.. the XMR
> can handle even more peers routes and so on but who really needs this?
>
> There is a comparison available:
>
>    *Attributes*
>  *BigIron RX*
>  *NetIron MLX*
>  *NetIron XMR*
>  IPv4 HW Routes
>  512K
>  512K
>  1M
>  IPv4 BGP Routes
>  1M/4M
>  2M
>  4M
>  BGP Peers
>  128
>  256
>  500
>  L3 VPN Instances
>  N/A
>  400
>  2K
>  VLL/VPLS Instances
>  N/A
>  4K
>  16K
>  Outbound ACL
>  N/A
>  Yes
>  Yes
>  MAC Addresses
>  16K
>  1M
>  2M
>  Relative 4x10GbE Pricing
>  X
>  ~1.25X
>  ~1.90X
> ask your foundry-rep for the powerpoint with the title "High Value
> Switching & Routing Solutions
> Metro, ISP, Data Center, IXP, High End Enterprise, HPC", it containts a
> very good comparison of the latest foundry gear.
>
>
> 512K IPv4 routes in hardware is more than enough for the next years...
> If you take into account that the linecards for the XMR-series are double
> the price you will certainly aggree....
>
> Best regards,
> Gunther
>
>
>  ------------------------------
> *Von:* foundry-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net [mailto:
> foundry-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net] *Im Auftrag von *Mike Allen
> *Gesendet:* Freitag, 22. September 2006 18:17
> *An:* Jason J. W. Williams
> *Cc:* foundry-nsp at puck.nether.net
> *Betreff:* Re: [f-nsp] foundry-nsp Digest, Vol 44, Issue 8
>
>  Jason, sorry, meant to get back to you sooner.  No, it has a much larger
> ternary cam, and does the FDR (pre-population of the cam) as well.  But keep
> in mind that this is an enterprise box, in terms of total numbers of routes,
> etc.
>
> Mike
>
> On 9/18/06, Jason J. W. Williams <jasonjwwilliams at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Mike,
> >
> > Does the SuperX suffer from the same problems as JetCore the in terms
> > of the routing/CAM discussion going on?
> >
> > Best Regards,
> > Jason
> >
> > On 9/18/06, Mike Allen <mkallen at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Jason,
> > >
> > > No, its not.  SuperX uses one specific chipset and software, Terathon
> > refers
> > > to the MG8/NI40G.  The newer MLX/XMR family is the next generation of
> > > Terathon hardware.  The SuperX is more of an enterprise box, in terms
> > of
> > > features and densities.
> > >
> > >
> > > Mike
> > >
> > >
> > > On 9/18/06, Jason J. W. Williams <jasonjwwilliams at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > Niels et. al,
> > >
> > > Is the chipset in the new SuperX gear (as well as the MG8/newer
> > > NetIron gear) using Terathon?
> > >
> > > -J
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