[f-nsp] Where have all the MLX/XMR users gone to?

[Aaron]

We replaced our Extreme gear with Brocade several years ago. We're 
getting ready to swap out some MLXes' with SLXs'.  We've looked at 
Arista hard but just can't seem to justify the 3x price premium.

Aaron


On 3/12/2019 3:21 AM, George B wrote:
> I suppose they could keep some customers if they went with some sort 
> of an attractive trade up program for X2 cards.  There are a lot of 
> networks out there that don't take a full table, though, and if you 
> study the CIDR report you will find several networks out there 
> announcing /16 nets and even larger with a more specific for every 
> single one of their /24 nets with an identical AS PATH.  It looks like 
> the more specifics aren't multi-homed and they are just worried about 
> route hijacking, I suppose.  But if I filter everything longer than 
> the aggregate, I'll never see a  hijacking attempt on one of the more 
> specifics anyway. One can clobber a lot of unnecessary routes that way 
> but it's still really a game of whack a mole.   The K series line 
> cards and rack switches from Arista have been pretty stable so far.  
> Our old MLX units have really been workhorses over the years, though. 
> We had one failure of an 8x10G card in the past 3 years.
>
> Extreme never really impressed me at layer 3 anyway and I always saw 
> them as best at layer 2 inside the data center.  In fact. the place 
> where I worked way back in the day was an Extreme shop until I needed 
> a rather simple BGP option (maximum-paths to do multiple paths to a 
> destination) and they said BGP really wasn't on their road  map and 
> that's when I called Foundry.  It was Extreme that actually pushed me 
> to Foundry and eventually Brocade in the first place.  We're in the 
> process of forklifting the last of the MLX units out this year, though.
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 8, 2019 at 4:21 PM Mike Leber <mleber at he.net 
> <mailto:mleber at he.net>> wrote:
>
>     Starting several years ago we switched from 1M route cards and chassis
>     to 2M route cards and chassis, so those sites will be fine for a while
>     (depending on growth).
>
>     That left quite a few XMR 8000s and 4000s out there, which we replaced
>     with SLX 9540s and 9640s.
>
>     We've been not so vocal about it because just like with any brand new
>     platform we end up being essentially a free outsourced testing service
>     for our router vendors.
>
>     At this point I'm happy with the progress (new software versions with
>     fixes) enough to post about it.
>
>     The 9640s support 4M routes.
>
>     Mike.
>
>     On 1/28/19 1:31 PM, "Rolf Hanßen" wrote:
>     > Hi,
>     >
>     > I guess most of the users simply replaced their Brocade boxes with
>     > Juniper, Cisco or Arista and have no need to use that list here
>     anymore.
>     > ;)
>     >
>     > kind regards
>     > Rolf
>     >
>     >> Is there a new list for Foundry/Brocade/Extreme?
>     >>
>     >> Thanks,
>     >>
>     >> joe
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> Joe McGuckin
>     >> ViaNet Communications
>     >>
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