[iptv-users] Open source IPTV bits

Fri Jun 12 13:17:30 EDT 2009

To clarify, my point was that getting access to content is not easy, and
part of the challenge is that some content owners require CA and they need
to approve the CA selection.

The state of CA today is that not every CA vendor works with every
middleware and even then, the middleware vendor may not integrate those
selected CA vendors into every STB model.  In the U.S. market, seeing what
Minerva and Myrio have done in the last few years with their CA partners
(Widevine, Irdeto, Verimatrix, etc), it's clear that middleware vendors are
much more selective about who they work with than before.

I'm not sure what you mean by "Why do you think they 'pull your tap' at the
pole when you don't pay for cable?".  We're talking about IP TV, not RF.

And when you say "Encryption is not required once the content is at your
premises", I presume you mean the customer premises.  Based on what I've
seen from content owners, the video stream needs to remain encrypted in the
head end/CO and in the access network.  Only when it hits the customer's STB
is it to be descrypted.  And if you receive your content and need to
bulk-decrypt it for some reason, depending on the contract that the
transport vendor had with the content owner, and the contract the service
provider has with the content owner, it will need to be encrypted again.

It's my belief that, in time, most content will need to be encrypted.  Only
stuff like the shopping channels and the like will not require it.

Frank

From: D. Ryan Spott [mailto:rspott at cspott.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 12:01 PM
To: frnkblk at iname.com
Cc: 'Charles Wyble'; iptv-users at puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [iptv-users] Open source IPTV bits

Conditional access is easiest. No physical connection, no access. Why do you
think they "pull your tap" at the pole when you don't pay for cable?

Encryption is not required once the content is at your premises.

ryan

Frank Bulk - iName.com wrote: 

Certain content providers require encryption/conditional-access -- best of
luck trying to get them to approve an opensource DRM.  You need all the
funding and resources of companies like Verimatrix, Widevine, Latens,
Irdeto, Nagravision, etc to make that happen.

>From my perspective, if a telco wants to provide IP TV, after all the
market
and business research, the next thing to work on is content and encryption.
The middleware, STBs, and network generally falls into place after that.
Fortunately, there are companies that will help with the content licensing
process (i.e. TeleChannel, National Telco TV Consortium, NRTC, and NCTC).

Frank

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Subject: Re: [iptv-users] Open source IPTV bits

Frank Bulk - iName.com wrote:

If there's one thing I've learned about IPTV since getting into it, it's
that IP TV in the home is very different than the service provider space.

Can you expand on that a bit?

You mean delivery to end users vs wholesale?

One reason that open source isn't a starter, at least in North America, is
the requirement by content providers for conditional access.

Hmmmm. A quick search reveals https://dream.dev.java.net/ (archived yes).

These things are solvable problems. :)

Frank

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[mailto:iptv-users-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Charles Wyble
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 7:40 PM
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Subject: [iptv-users] Open source IPTV bits

I figure I should start another thread about this....

Here is a copy/paste from a mind map I have done.

Content Acquisition
     MythTV
     TvHeadEnd
     FuriousTV
Server Side
     Content Acquisition
         MythTV
         TvHeadEnd
         FuriousTV
     Middleware
         Toroid
         Streamnik
         Mim
         Motama
Middleware
     Toroid
     Streamnik
     Mim
     Motama

Still figuring out IPTV infrastructure/architecture. Any good 
books/papers on this? The wikipedia page is pretty complete.

TvHeadEnd http://lonelycoder.com/hts/ seems fairly mature.
Toroid http://www.toroid.tv/ is fairly new.
Motama http://www.motama.com/ is a pretty mature project.

I recently read an article in light reading covering Cisco solutions. 
http://www.lightreading.com/document.asp?doc_id=177356
<http://www.lightreading.com/document.asp?doc_id=177356&print=yes>
&print=yes

and some interesting links to other tests they had done (like the CRS1).
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