[j-nsp] EX Switch Question

Mark Tinka mark.tinka at seacom.mu
Wed Apr 3 15:40:24 EDT 2013


On Monday, April 01, 2013 05:44:59 PM Pavel Lunin wrote:

> Well, I'd also really like to have a Juniper box
> competing against Catalyst ME, but, again, I believe
> there might be (I don't say "there is") some common
> sense in not even trying to play this game. I can easily
> imagine sane reasons for which they decided to spend
> money and time on ACX (PTX, QFabric, WiFi) instead of
> just trying to catch up Cisco, Extreeme and others in
> the straightforward ME game.

I think if Juniper have decided to consciously not play in 
this space, that's fine by me.

A lot of folk are gung-ho on having a single vendor do 
everything for them. I prefer to have multiple vendors 
wherever I can; this just means that for the most part, 
Cisco will win my business for Metro-E deployments, which is 
not something I'm entirely happy with, but can live with.

Others who are Juniper 100% of the way may not be as 
pleased, but I guess they'll either pay more to stick with 
Juniper, or be forced to deploy boxes they would never like 
to see.

To each his own.

> It's really interesting, that you say 2RU is too much for
> MX80. I never heard such a claim from a customer. At
> least, it's never been a serious problem. Much more
> often they ask whether it fits into a 60 cm deep rack
> and how much power it eats. I think, the lack of this
> requirement comes from completely different economics of
> real estate, access networks structure and all. In many
> countries (where telecom markets are emerging) access
> network is often an interconnection of places like this:
> http://nag.ru/upload/images/20519/1877875733.jpeg In a
> hell I'd put there something closely priced to MX5, be
> it 1 or 2 RU height :) So people often come up using
> something extremely cheap in the PoPs (don't even think
> "MPLS") and aggregate them in a location, where 1 or 2
> RU doesn't make much difference.

In many deployments I've made, the rack space can also be an 
issue. In many places, power isn't the only premium in data 
centres.

Mark.
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