[j-nsp] MX104 Limitations

Adam Vitkovsky Adam.Vitkovsky at gamma.co.uk
Thu Jul 9 10:34:24 EDT 2015


Hi Mark,

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark Tinka [mailto:mark.tinka at seacom.mu]
> Sent: 09 July 2015 14:36
> To: Adam Vitkovsky; Colton Conor; juniper-nsp at puck.nether.net
> Subject: Re: [j-nsp] MX104 Limitations
> 
> 
> 
> On 9/Jul/15 15:27, Adam Vitkovsky wrote:
> > Interesting facts.
> > Now the Juniper MX104 win over Cisco ASR903 (max prefix limit) is not that
> clear anymore.
> >
> > Since the chassis is 80Gbps in total I'd assume around 40Gbps towards
> aggregation and 40Gbps to backbone.
> >
> > Also if BFD is really not offloaded into HW it would be a bummer on such a
> slow CPU.
> >
> > With regards to 1588 I'd like to know if or how anyone deployed this on
> MPLS backbone if the 4G is in a VRF???
> > In other words 1588 runs in GRT/inet.0 so how do you then rely the precise
> per hop delay/jitter info to a 4G cell which sits in a VRF?
> > Never mind that the cell doesn't really need this precision and running 1588
> with the server in 4G VRF across the 1588-blind MPLS core is enough.
> >
> > It seems Juniper is still waiting for a big customer that is not willing to wait
> for BGP to converge millions of MAC addresses if DF PE fails (PBB-EVPN)
> 
> When my MX80's and ASR9001's run out of steam (we use these for peering
> and transit), I'll look at the MX104, ASR1006 and ASR9904 as potential
> replacements.
> 
I'd like to see the ASR9K to run out of steam :)
Still haven't seen the preso on 9904 internals but I'm not quite convinced. Do I read it right it's just basically 9006-2 with some RU savings?

> I think the MX104 is good enough for peering/transit. I also think it's
> good enough for low-speed edge routing, e.g., non-Ethernet.

But MX104 can't hold the full internet routing table in forwarding-table so it's good only for peering or can it indeed?

 > I'd likely never deploy an MX104 in places where the MX480/960 or the
> larger ASR9900 routers are better-suited, i.e., major Ethernet aggregation.
> 
> Mark.
I think MX104 can be a nice small town PE to aggregate the town ring so no competition to MX480/960
 
adam



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