[j-nsp] Opinions on fusion provider edge

[Richard McGovern]

Agree 100%.  If you need L3 for 1GE edge, no solution today.  That solution (late 1H2019 or 2H2019) will come with EVPN/VXLAN support on EX4300-MP, from what I hear.  If you can get away with just L2 at 1GE edge, than ESI-LAG to any L2 Access will work.  Yes you can also use QFX5K Agg running EVPN/VXKLAN and then connect 1GE platform (via ESI-LAG) to it.

For question is need or beneficial to interconnect at edge, can be done, but not really beneficial as EVPN/VXLAN TOR or Agg are always 1 Hop away anyway.  Hopefully this makes sense to you.

Regards

Richard McGovern
Sr Sales Engineer, Juniper Networks 
978-618-3342
 

On 11/6/18, 1:39 PM, "Saku Ytti" <saku at ytti.fi> wrote:

    Hey Richard,
    
    I think there are two separate issues here. Lot of people looking at
    Fusion aren't choosing it for technology, they are choosing it for
    media, as 1GE L3 ports are not available. So options are
    
    a) L2 aggregation
    b) Fusion
    c) Wait for JNPR to release some MX244 with 4xQSFP28 + 40xSFP+ box,
    which has attractive pay-as-you-go for 1GE deployments.
    
    I'm sure there is another set of problems where EVPN and Fusion are
    competition options, but for service providers fusion's value proposal
    mainly is low rate ports, ports which Cisco and Juniper do not really
    offer anymore on L3 devices.
    
    
    On Tue, 6 Nov 2018 at 19:21, Richard McGovern <rmcgovern at juniper.net> wrote:
    >
    > I might suggest you look at an EVPN based design instead.  This is going to be Juniper's #1 go to in the future.  I believe things like Junos Fusion and MC-LAG, etc. may still be supported, but secondary to EVPN and associated features.
    >
    > What is your planned SD devices?  QFX5???
    >
    > Richard McGovern
    > Sr Sales Engineer, Juniper Networks
    > 978-618-3342
    >
    >
    > On 11/5/18, 8:32 PM, "Eldon Koyle" <ekoyle+puck.nether.net at gmail.com> wrote:
    >
    >     What kind of experiences (good or bad) have people had with Juniper's
    >     Fusion Provider edge?  Are there any limitations I should be aware of?
    >
    >     I'm looking at it to simplify management in a campus network environment
    >     and to use features that are only available on the MX currently.
    >
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