[j-nsp] Difference in "MX204" and "MX204-HW-BASE"?

[Richard McGovern]

Confusing, yes! As chiel wrote, these are just ordering SKU. Neither should be used for new orders. Instead “MX204-HWBASE-AC-FS” should be used, but “MX204-HW-BASE” is still allowed for legacy ordering. These are both priced the same, and basically provide exact same HW parts.

The “difference” is that either SKU above does not contain a [Flex] Feature License. Some Feature License, Adv or Prem, at some term (years or perpetual) must now be included if you want any MX to do any L3 or above features. So basically without some Feature License tied the HW SN via some Flex Feature License, it is a good boat anchor!

For information on Flex Licenses go here - https://www.juniper.net/documentation/us/en/software/license/juniper-licensing-user-guide/topics/concept/licenses-for-juniper-software.html

This change in how MX and other Juniper products has been driven by Stock Analysist and other vendors. “I don’t make the news, I just report it”

For any questions, reach out to either your Juniper Partner or Juniper Account team.

FYI Only. Regards, Rich

Richard McGovern
Sr Sales Engineer, Juniper Networks
978-618-3342

I’d rather be lucky than good, as I know I am not good
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On 1/10/24, 10:43 AM, "Tom Beecher" <beecher at beecher.cc> wrote:
>
> Is there a difference between "MX204" and "MX204-HW-BASE"?
>

Strictly speaking they are just different SKUs, not different models.

MX204 : Chassis + Fan trays + PEMs
MX204-HW-BASE : Base MX204 chassis PLUS perpetual Junos software license

AFAIK , code that has enforcement is limited to specific scaling or more
advanced features, but outside of that, base things just work. Don't take
that as gospel though.

On Wed, Jan 10, 2024 at 8:19 AM chiel via juniper-nsp <
juniper-nsp at puck.nether.net<mailto:juniper-nsp at puck.nether.net>> wrote:

> Is there a difference between "MX204" and "MX204-HW-BASE"?
>
> I thought the "MX204" has honored based license, which isn't sold
> anymore. Where the "MX204-HW-BASE" (also end of sale but still widely
> available) enforces the license after version 22.2R1 for BGP. Is this
> assumption correct?
>
> If there is indeed this difference how can I distinguish these two
> platforms from the CLI?
>
> I have a MX204 with version 22.3R3.8 without a license installed on it
> and its doing BGP just fine. So I guess I have the older MX204 model?
>
> I'm asking as I'm looking for a spare (refurb) unit for my current router.
>
> admin at router> show system license
> License usage:
>                                   Licenses     Licenses    Licenses
>                    Feature      Feature     Feature
>    Feature name                       used    installed      needed Expiry
>    scale-subscriber                      0           10 0    permanent
>    scale-l2tp                            0         1000 0    permanent
>    bgp                                   1            0 1    invalid
>    l3static                              1            0 1    invalid
>    ospf                                  1            0 1    invalid
>
> Licenses installed: none
>
>
> admin at router> show chassis hardware
> Hardware inventory:
> Item             Version  Part number  Serial number     Description
> Chassis                                XXXXX             JNP204 [MX204]
>
>
>
>
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