[Outages-discussion] [outages] Fios in NYC area?

[Charles Sprickman]

I remember the old days when all the major carriers had some “unofficial” presence on NANOG and the like, but it seems like those days are done and the netheads lost to the bellheads at VZ and we’ve got interns running the network or something.

Look at this nonsense:

https://www.dslreports.com/forum/r32752589-What-is-this-192-168-0-1-IP-Can-anyone-in-NY-with-FiOS-ping-it

How does the entity that used to be Alternet leak private IPs into their production network not once but twice and each time take weeks/months to fix it?

Charles

> On Jun 18, 2020, at 10:24 AM, David Rubin <drubin at cubexgroup.com> wrote:
> 
> I'm still having users reporting issues today - do we know if this is ongoing / if Verizon is aware of what's going on?  I'm guessing they aren't - because why would they be?
> 
> On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 6:40 PM Cary Wiedemann via Outages <outages at outages.org <mailto:outages at outages.org>> wrote:
> I've definitely seen loss from FiOS circuits in Manhattan and Long Island to many routes (examples: AT&T and Cox, but not Google's local 8.8.8.8 resolver) starting around 8:45pm EDT last night.
> 
> Some graphs:
> 24-hour Long Island FiOS to Cox:
> <image.png>
> 2-hour Long Island FiOS to Cox:
> <image.png>
> 2-hour Manhattan to FiOS to AT&T:
> <image.png>
> 
> And of course New York is one of the IPv6 FiOS regions that broke traditional traceroute, so it's tougher than normal to nail down which router is the culprit.  I have some UDP MTRs running now which should hopefully answer that question.
> 
> I've seen several days of high latency and intermittent loss to many Verizon peers via their old ALTER.NET <http://alter.net/> routers in the DC region too, which may or may not be related.
> 
> No, it's not just you.  But it's not the last-mile FiOS either.  Looks like Verizon backbone routing woes.
> 
> - Cary
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 5:13 PM Izzy Goldstein - TeleGo via Outages <outages at outages.org <mailto:outages at outages.org>> wrote:
> getting complaints from customers using FiOS of packet loss to our data center
> but getting word there is an issue in NYC area with other data centers too?
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