[Outages-discussion] Way OT: NYC-area "Carrier Hotels" in it for the long term?

[Matthew Petach]

Hi Charles,

I'm curious what your criteria are; I noticed you left 25 Broadway and 32
Avenue of the Americas
off your list of NYC carrier hotels, but included 165 Halsey even though
it's not in NYC.

Are you looking for recommendations on carrier hotels in NYC, including
ones not on your list,
or are you specifically just wanting to know information about those two
locations only because
of $reasons?

Understanding better what it is you're looking for will drive better
responses to your inquiry.  ^_^;

Thanks!

Matt


On Fri, Dec 6, 2024 at 1:16 PM Charles Sprickman via Outages-discussion <
outages-discussion at outages.org> wrote:

> I have no idea where to go for questions like this these days, so maybe a
> little reliability angle here can help me wedge this question into being a
> on-topic...
>
> As I understand it, the three "big" carrier hotels here are:
>
> - 111 8th Avenue
> - 60 Hudson
> - 165 Halsey (Newark)
>
> The colo space seems to be a mess right now, but perhaps we're going to
> see that recover as more people do the math on "cloud repatriation". But in
> that list, I think 111 8th is not long for this world as google fails to
> renew some leases (ex: Level3/Lumen is out next year).
>
> Now both 60 Hudson and 165 Halsey are old, not purpose-built, not
> particularly hardened for security/weather, and as best I can tell, have a
> bit of an ad-hoc, tenant-driven setup for backup power and fuel for same.
> Currently, sitting in 111 8th since the mid-90's, I know they've simply not
> lost backup power - not around 9/11, the big east coast blackout, or Sandy.
> This doesn't feel like a high bar, but I feel like in general people are
> not as demanding as they were pre-cloud with this sort of stuff.
>
> Anyone here willing to speak to the reliability of 165 Halsey or 60
> Hudson? I feel like not too long ago someone had posted about some issues
> at 165 Halsey - power issues I think? Or fire? I'm not even sure what the
> situation is with the river that runs through Newark...
>
> I've heard some rumblings that 60 Hudson may not be long for this world,
> but I think that's people mistaking some tenants (like Lumen/Level3) just
> exiting a business that's not their focus anymore (colo in carrier hotels).
>
> Also happily will take any info/rumors/anecdotes on either!
>
> Thanks,
>
> Charles
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