[VoiceOps] Porting Number - CLEC

[Carlos Alcantar]

Eric,

You will pretty much get stopped at the door with out being a clec without
an ICA.  You can't even get some of the required codes from telcordia and
neustar without showing your proof of being a state regulated utility.
There are a bunch of steps that need to happen before you can get to the
point of doing local interconnect.

Carlos Alcantar
Race Communications / Race Team Member
101 Haskins Way, So. San Francisco, CA. 94080
Phone: +1 415 376 3314  Fax:  +1 650 246 8901 / carlos *at* race.com /
www.race.com 










On 6/16/11 4:12 PM, "Eric Hiller" <clec at cygnustel.com> wrote:

>Carlos,
>
>But what if you were in a LATA where ATT is and you have no ICA with ATT
>just some other ILEC in the LATA? Are you saying that ATT would not allow
>you to port any numbers from them without an ICA?
>
>-Eric
>
>On Thu, June 16, 2011 5:30 pm, Carlos Alcantar wrote:
>> Eric,
>>
>> We just went through this battle with att we thought the same but
>>reading
>> deep into our ICA we had to get minimum trunks to all the tandems in the
>> lata 2x t1's and then we ordered the majority of our trunking at the
>> tandem where we homed our LRN.  It sucks but we haven't found a way
>>around
>> it.
>>
>> Carlos Alcantar
>> Race Communications / Race Team Member
>> 101 Haskins Way, So. San Francisco, CA. 94080
>> Phone: +1 415 376 3314  Fax:  +1 650 246 8901 / carlos *at* race.com /
>> www.race.com <http://www.race.com/>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 6/16/11 2:02 PM, "Eric Hiller" <clec at cygnustel.com> wrote:
>>
>>>I would not think you would need trunks to all the tandems in the lata
>>> for
>>>TERMINATIONS though, just ORIGINATIONS as Mary Lou had said?
>>>
>>>For example I can port a number from Level 3 even though I am not on
>>> every
>>>tandem in the LATA now.
>>>
>>>Is this correct Mary Lou? So if I added 4 new LATAs and I just wanted to
>>>do terminations, I would just have to establish a new LRN in each LATA
>>>as
>>>well as trunking to the tandem my LRN is homed on?
>>>
>>>-Eric
>>>
>>>On Wed, June 15, 2011 5:59 pm, Carlos Alcantar wrote:
>>>> Mary Lou,
>>>>
>>>> At least here in CA att makes you trunk to all the tandems in the
>>>>lata.
>>>> At least with min trunks and you build your bulk of your trunks where
>>>>your
>>>> LRN is going to sit at.
>>>>
>>>> Carlos Alcantar
>>>> Race Communications / Race Team Member
>>>> 101 Haskins Way, So. San Francisco, CA. 94080
>>>> Phone: +1 415 376 3314  Fax:  +1 650 246 8901 / carlos at race.com /
>>>> www.race.com <http://www.race.com/>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 6/15/11 10:55 AM, "Mary Lou Carey" <marylou at backuptelecom.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>To terminate traffic you only need to have trunking to the LRN tandem
>>>>> in
>>>>>that LATA, but to originate traffic you need to have trunking
>>>>>established
>>>>>to
>>>>>the tandem that the rate center of the NXX homes on. Once we have all
>>>>> your
>>>>>Chicago trunks installed, you will be able to port any number in the
>>>>>LATA
>>>>>to
>>>>>yourself. Make sense?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Mary Lou Carey
>>>>>BackUP Telecom Consulting
>>>>>CLEC Consultant
>>>>>OFF: 615-791-9969
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>From: voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org
>>>>> [mailto:voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org]
>>>>>On Behalf Of Eric Hiller
>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 10:50 AM
>>>>>To: voiceops at voiceops.org
>>>>>Subject: [VoiceOps] Porting Number - CLEC
>>>>>
>>>>>In order to port a number, what trunking requirements do we have? Is
>>>>>it
>>>>>that we have to have trunking to the same tandem as the npa-nxx
>>>>>holder?
>>>>>IE. If I wanted to port 100-100-1000 And the 100-100-1 thousands block
>>>>>is
>>>>>held by company A, and then 100-100 npanxx/ten k block is held by
>>>>>Company
>>>>>B and is homed on Tandem C, then I just need to have trunking into
>>>>>Tandem
>>>>>C and have an ICA with whomever controls Tandem C, which could be
>>>>>company
>>>>>A,B or some third company C correct?
>>>>>
>>>>>The same would apply in order to get our own thousands block as well
>>>>>correct?
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>-Eric Hiller
>>>>>Cygnus
>>>>>
>>>>>
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