[VoiceOps] Porting Number - CLEC

[Eric Hiller]

Carlos,

We are a CLEC, and we have an ICA with ATT, this was regarding adding
additional LATAs and ILECs to our network.

-Eric


On Thu, June 16, 2011 9:29 pm, Carlos Alcantar wrote:
> Eric,
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> You will pretty much get stopped at the door with out being a clec without
> an ICA.  You can't even get some of the required codes from telcordia and
> neustar without showing your proof of being a state regulated utility.
> There are a bunch of steps that need to happen before you can get to the
> point of doing local interconnect.
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> Carlos Alcantar
> Race Communications / Race Team Member
> 101 Haskins Way, So. San Francisco, CA. 94080
> Phone: +1 415 376 3314  Fax:  +1 650 246 8901 / carlos *at* race.com /
> www.race.com
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> On 6/16/11 4:12 PM, "Eric Hiller" <clec at cygnustel.com> wrote:
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>>Carlos,
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>>But what if you were in a LATA where ATT is and you have no ICA with ATT
>>just some other ILEC in the LATA? Are you saying that ATT would not allow
>>you to port any numbers from them without an ICA?
>>
>>-Eric
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>>On Thu, June 16, 2011 5:30 pm, Carlos Alcantar wrote:
>>> Eric,
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>>> We just went through this battle with att we thought the same but
>>>reading
>>> deep into our ICA we had to get minimum trunks to all the tandems in
>>> the
>>> lata 2x t1's and then we ordered the majority of our trunking at the
>>> tandem where we homed our LRN.  It sucks but we haven't found a way
>>>around
>>> it.
>>>
>>> Carlos Alcantar
>>> Race Communications / Race Team Member
>>> 101 Haskins Way, So. San Francisco, CA. 94080
>>> Phone: +1 415 376 3314  Fax:  +1 650 246 8901 / carlos *at* race.com /
>>> www.race.com <http://www.race.com/>
>>>
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>>> On 6/16/11 2:02 PM, "Eric Hiller" <clec at cygnustel.com> wrote:
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>>>>I would not think you would need trunks to all the tandems in the lata
>>>> for
>>>>TERMINATIONS though, just ORIGINATIONS as Mary Lou had said?
>>>>
>>>>For example I can port a number from Level 3 even though I am not on
>>>> every
>>>>tandem in the LATA now.
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>>>>Is this correct Mary Lou? So if I added 4 new LATAs and I just wanted
>>>> to
>>>>do terminations, I would just have to establish a new LRN in each LATA
>>>>as
>>>>well as trunking to the tandem my LRN is homed on?
>>>>
>>>>-Eric
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>>>>On Wed, June 15, 2011 5:59 pm, Carlos Alcantar wrote:
>>>>> Mary Lou,
>>>>>
>>>>> At least here in CA att makes you trunk to all the tandems in the
>>>>>lata.
>>>>> At least with min trunks and you build your bulk of your trunks where
>>>>>your
>>>>> LRN is going to sit at.
>>>>>
>>>>> Carlos Alcantar
>>>>> Race Communications / Race Team Member
>>>>> 101 Haskins Way, So. San Francisco, CA. 94080
>>>>> Phone: +1 415 376 3314  Fax:  +1 650 246 8901 / carlos at race.com /
>>>>> www.race.com <http://www.race.com/>
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>>>>> On 6/15/11 10:55 AM, "Mary Lou Carey" <marylou at backuptelecom.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>To terminate traffic you only need to have trunking to the LRN tandem
>>>>>> in
>>>>>>that LATA, but to originate traffic you need to have trunking
>>>>>>established
>>>>>>to
>>>>>>the tandem that the rate center of the NXX homes on. Once we have all
>>>>>> your
>>>>>>Chicago trunks installed, you will be able to port any number in the
>>>>>>LATA
>>>>>>to
>>>>>>yourself. Make sense?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Mary Lou Carey
>>>>>>BackUP Telecom Consulting
>>>>>>CLEC Consultant
>>>>>>OFF: 615-791-9969
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>From: voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org
>>>>>> [mailto:voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org]
>>>>>>On Behalf Of Eric Hiller
>>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 10:50 AM
>>>>>>To: voiceops at voiceops.org
>>>>>>Subject: [VoiceOps] Porting Number - CLEC
>>>>>>
>>>>>>In order to port a number, what trunking requirements do we have? Is
>>>>>>it
>>>>>>that we have to have trunking to the same tandem as the npa-nxx
>>>>>>holder?
>>>>>>IE. If I wanted to port 100-100-1000 And the 100-100-1 thousands
>>>>>> block
>>>>>>is
>>>>>>held by company A, and then 100-100 npanxx/ten k block is held by
>>>>>>Company
>>>>>>B and is homed on Tandem C, then I just need to have trunking into
>>>>>>Tandem
>>>>>>C and have an ICA with whomever controls Tandem C, which could be
>>>>>>company
>>>>>>A,B or some third company C correct?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The same would apply in order to get our own thousands block as well
>>>>>>correct?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>-Eric Hiller
>>>>>>Cygnus
>>>>>>
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