[VoiceOps] AT&T Right of Ways

[Paul Timmins]

Have you asked your Carrier Account Manager if they can get you a list 
of all their certified vendors for manhole work?

Many of those provide turnkey style services, and as a plus often have 
access to AT&T's facilities management systems and have a general idea 
if the paths you want to take are too full, or if there are any special 
requirements.

I know they have to provide the list of tier 1 vendors for CO 
installation work, so they may have one for their outside facilities 
too. If not, you may want to call the tier 1 CO vendors - if they don't 
do it themselves they often know someone who does.

-Paul

On 10/05/2011 10:18 PM, Carlos Alcantar wrote:
> Hey Paul,
>
> Ultimately I would like to find someone who is familiar with the att 
> process as well as someone who is familiar with the engineering side 
> of the rows.  I've not had much luck finding a construction company 
> that is familiar with this entire process.  If you know anyone that is 
> looking for some work that has these qualifications please pass me 
> there name.
>
> *Carlos Alcantar*
>
> *Race Communications*/ Race Team Member
> 101 Haskins Way, So. San Francisco, CA. 94080
> *Phone:***+1 415 376 3314*Fax:*****+1 650 246 
> 8901*/***carlos at race.com*/***www.race.com <http://www.race.com/>
>
>
>
> From: Paul Timmins <paul at timmins.net <mailto:paul at timmins.net>>
> Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2011 19:52:23 -0400
> To: Carlos Alcantar <carlos at race.com <mailto:carlos at race.com>>
> Cc: VoiceOps <voiceops at voiceops.org <mailto:voiceops at voiceops.org>>
> Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] AT&T Right of Ways
>
> As far as I know, most of the time you're going to need contractors 
> certified to work in AT&T's ducts and manholes anyway (or people with 
> requisite training to engineer the cabling for proper anchoring, wind 
> load, and other things on aerial cable). Most of them are familiar 
> with the ROW application process. If you don't have people who are 
> qualified to do the engineering to demonstrate your cable won't unduly 
> damage the poles, and has appropriate wind load, you've got a lot of 
> work and education ahead of you unless you use a qualified contractor 
> anyway.
>
> If you want to do your own, my suggestion is to have someone else do 
> your first set, and then you have a working copy of all the paperwork 
> and the complex processes necessary to make it all work. In Michigan, 
> for example, you also need permitting from the municipality even 
> though you're using the existing utilities easement, which if you're a 
> CLEC there's a process called the METRO act that you go through that 
> gives you basically rubber stamped right of way access (you still need 
> the pole attachments from the ILEC, or the duct assignments).
>
> Additionally, if you're going aerial, you need to inspect the route to 
> ensure AT&T owns the poles you need access to. They can only give you 
> ROW on poles they own (I think joint use agreements count here too) 
> but if they lease the poles from the power company you will have to 
> work with them to get access as well.
>
> -Paul
>
> On 10/05/2011 04:17 PM, Carlos Alcantar wrote:
>> Anyone familiar with doing all the paper work and design work for 
>> using the right of ways in the AT&T states?  We have the row in our 
>> ICA amendments and looking for the first time to possibly use them.
>>
>> *Carlos Alcantar*
>>
>> *Race Communications*/ Race Team Member
>> 101 Haskins Way, So. San Francisco, CA. 94080
>> *Phone:***+1 415 376 3314*Fax:*****+1 650 246 
>> 8901*/***carlos at race.com*/***www.race.com <http://www.race.com/>
>>
>>
>>
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