[VoiceOps] Number Portability Within a Carrier

Paul Timmins paul at timmins.net
Wed Oct 10 23:26:41 EDT 2012

If your tier 1 is competent, they're passing CSR requests and providing some sort of loss notification.

If they fail to provide same, well, then they're not competent.

On Oct 10, 2012, at 22:52 , Peter Beckman <beckman at angryox.com> wrote:

> So there are some pretty big Tier 1 names in the DID/telecom world: Level3,
> Verizon, Bandwidth.com. Many resellers resell the DIDs they get from these
> bigger companies.
> The problem is that the Tier 1 company shows up as the "owner" of phone
> numbers that we get from our Tier 2 or even Tier 3 providers. That's all
> fine and good, but the problem is this:
>    Me ------> Tier 2 provider --> Tier 1 provider
>                                /
>    Not Me --> Tier 2 provider /
> When someone submits a request to port a number, and they port it to a
> different Tier 2 provider that gets its numbers from the same Tier 1
> provider, I have no way, not even with an LNP dip, to find out that it was
> ported, that the owner had changed.
> I'm pretty sure Tier 1 providers don't have an API or any way that I might
> be able to find out that they moved a number from one of their direct
> customers to another. Am I wrong?
> So how do we deal with this? How do we find out, in a definitive and
> authoritative and programmatic manner, when a number we think is ours is
> ported away?
> Beckman
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