[VoiceOps] VoIP traffic survey

Frank Bulk frnkblk at iname.com
Sat Mar 9 12:05:06 EST 2013

You're right, it PVU and PIU don't relate to the way we interconnect, but if
the endpoints are either VoIP or TDM, for the short term that does affect
terminating access.  IIRC, in terminating access that is originated VoIP is
paid at interstate rates, even if it's an intrastate call. 


-----Original Message-----
From: Justin B Newman [mailto:justin at ejtown.org] 
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 8:44 AM
To: Frank Bulk
Cc: voiceops at voiceops.org
Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] VoIP traffic survey

> As I'm sure you're aware, the FCC's compensation scheme does not in
> any way relate to the media over which calls are delivered.

On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 8:30 AM, Frank Bulk <frnkblk at iname.com> wrote:
> Unfortunately that is not the case.  Just google for PVU and PIU.

I would disagree with this assessment. PVU and PIU do not relate to
the way in which we interconnect. In fact, the Court has weighed in
years ago re: "IP in the middle" for AT&T. The fact that IP is used
somewhere in the middle of the call changes nothing. What PIU/PVU are
designed to address is (in theory) end-points. While we can argue all
day long over the relevance of end-point technology, the regulators
appear to have opened that door. They have not, IMO, opened the door
to "IP in the middle" making a difference.


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