[VoiceOps] [VOIPSEC] Tackling VoIP fraud, new idea

Jim Dalton jim.dalton at transnexus.com
Fri Feb 21 16:17:45 EST 2014

One option maybe to cooperate with the Communications Fraud Control
Association  (www.cfca.org).  They do vet their members, but they do not
have a mailing list.  The association also has an annual membership fee.

Jim Dalton

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Sent: Friday, February 21, 2014 3:38 PM
To: Hiers, David
Cc: voiceops at voiceops.org; Mark Collier; voipsec at voipsa.org
Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] [VOIPSEC] Tackling VoIP fraud, new idea

On Fri, 21 Feb 2014, Hiers, David wrote:

> The key is vetting the participants.  Even the feds have a hard time with

Indeed which is why I stated:

1) Private mailing list - to prevent talks from being seen

2) NON freemail addresses - easier to establish that this individual works
for this company, therefore its highly unlikely he is going to throw
himself, and or his company, under the bus passing bogus information.

The "private mailing list" is not to try to start some secret club, VoIP
Gestapo. It is merely to be able to share data, methods, etc., with other
peers in an effort to keep our networks from piping out 100s of thousands of
dollars in toll fraud. PERIOD. ANYONE is open to participate, with the
clause that we want to, and NEED to be able to trust data. Otherwise it will
never work.

I will re-think this over the weekend and have a take two.
I think it could, and would work. I do also believe that there are likely
individuals even on this list, that would not like the idea much, so hosting
decisions need be met, etc., in order to keep away DDoS attacks, reputation
based attacks, and so forth. That's my train of thought though.

J. Oquendo

"Where ignorance is our master, there is no possibility of real peace" -
Dalai Lama

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