[VoiceOps] USF is 33.4% for 2Q2021

[Mike Hammett]

$3.19 is right around 24% of 33.4% of $39.95. Maybe Comcast's traffic studies show that 24% of phone traffic is interstate, so that's the amount that gets the USF charge? 




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----- Original Message -----

From: "Matthew Yaklin" <myaklin at firstlight.net> 
To: "Peter Beckman" <beckman at angryox.com>, "Ed Guy" <edguy at eguy.org> 
Cc: voiceops at voiceops.org 
Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2021 3:07:53 PM 
Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] USF is 33.4% for 2Q2021 

A comcast business package looks like this right now for a small biz: 

Internet - 69.95 
Voice line - 39.95 
Voice equipment fee - 18.45 (that is hilarious to convert their coax signal to fxs) 

FUSF - 3.19 
Regulatory cost recovery - 1.36 
Voice network investment - 3.00 (wtf) 
Directory listing mgmt fee - 2.00 
Sales tax - 4.22 
911 fees - 1.50 

Grand total - 143.62 

Where and how is that 3.19 calculated? 

I am curious as well. 

Matt 

-----Original Message----- 
From: VoiceOps <voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org> On Behalf Of Peter Beckman 
Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2021 3:58 PM 
To: Ed Guy <edguy at eguy.org> 
Cc: voiceops at voiceops.org 
Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] USF is 33.4% for 2Q2021 

Ed -- I'd love to see more data on this. Where did your understanding come from? 

I looked at my cellular bill last night, and on 4 lines, the "Fed Universal Service Charge" was a total of $1.88 on a total bill of about $180 (about 
$160 of it was just the monthly fee for 4 plans). 

Does anyone know how the wireless companies pay USF? E.g. they are paying 33.4% on what exactly? 

Beckman 

On Thu, 10 Jun 2021, Ed Guy wrote: 

> What service features of the service are subject to USF? 
> is it only charged on retail land-line replacement or at multiple levels as a value-add? 
> My understanding is that cellular services do not pay USF ( but, when 
> we had a cell company several years ago, all taxes were outsourced..) 
> 
> 
> On 6/10/21, 1:07 PM, "VoiceOps on behalf of Alex Balashov" 
> <voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org on behalf of abalashov at evaristesys.com> 
> wrote: 
> 
> That, and, while I am not at all an expert on what can and can't be 
> recovered from customers, it was my impression that not 100% of USF can 
> be passed on. 
> 
> On 6/10/21 1:03 PM, Carlos Alvarez wrote: 
> 
> > Except that some of us specifically sell "bottom line" pricing that is 
> > not variable and not padded with 20 lines of fees and taxes. Because 
> > our ILEC is known for quoting $100 and billing $130-150 actual price. 
> > 
> > On Thu, Jun 10, 2021 at 9:38 AM Paul Timmins <paul at timmins.net> wrote: 
> > 
> > On 6/10/21 6:23 AM, Alex Balashov wrote: 
> > > 
> > > Yeah, observing it as an outsider who is not a service provider, 
> > I'm a 
> > > little shocked to say the least. It's hard to understand where that 
> > > kind of money is supposed to come from with the margins in this 
> > business. 
> > > 
> > Passthru fees to the end user, duh. There's nothing us telcos can't 
> > cram 
> > on the bottom of the bill. 
> > 
> > Customers are gonna be ticked, but what ya gonna do. It's a line item 
> > now, and a line item later. 

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