[VoiceOps] ANIs flagged as telemarketer/spammer/scammer

[Alex Balashov]

Dug up this old thread to say that this talk by Matt Florell of ViciDIAL fame might be edifying:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8iqgZ5bLaw

— Alex

> On Aug 31, 2018, at 4:12 PM, Ryan Delgrosso <ryandelgrosso at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> So today its mostly reputation scoring aggregators.
> 
> The two biggest that come to mind are whitepages.com (they own Hiya) and NextCaller.
> 
> There is some secret sauce, but the scoring algorithm is based on incoming query volume, LERG lookups, LIDB lookups, and of course user feedback from the freemium app Hiya which is in wide distribution.
> 
> I know nextcaller has some deeper hooks with major providers allowing them more accurate info (such as correlating an active call on the owning provider with the call youre dipping about etc), but their focus isnt SPIT protection, its an enterprise focused product and is priced as such.
> 
> Google (Android) now ships with this in the OS, and I presume they are leveraging one of these datasources since the call classifications match my whitepages dips. For network providers doing this, its generally just an appserver the call passes through that will do the dip, and modify the call headers for later behavioral changes (or at least that's how I have built it and seen it implemented). In a freeswitch ecosystem I just build the dialplan conditionally based upon the dip (so changing PAI or potentially even punting to VM).
> 
> I have reached out to my contact with whitepages.com about how to contest an inaccurate ranking in the past, and they dont see well equipped to do much about it yet, BUT in my case it was a newly assigned number that had been previously used by a bad actor and abandoned. It righted itself pretty quick when the bad call volumes stopped.
> 
> 
> On 8/30/2018 3:27 PM, Alex Balashov wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> So, of course, it is a known problem in the legitimate side of the lead
>> engagement call centre, survey, etc. business that ANIs get flagged as
>> "telemarketer" pretty quickly and start showing up that way on people's
>> phones.
>> 
>> Your normative viewpoint on that may vary depending on what you think of
>> lead gen calls, but regardless, a reasonable person would differentiate
>> between:
>> 
>> (1) Legitimate outbound dialing operations that are following up with
>> leads who provided their phone number and agreed to be called (at least,
>> as a matter of clicking "accept" on _something_), or for some other
>> legitimate mass-dialing purpose, and who actually own the DID inventory
>> from which they present local-market ANIs and can in fact be reached on
>> those numbers;
>> 
>> (2) Illegal spammers who use fake ANIs and call people who did not in
>> any way consent to being called by them.
>> 
>> I am trying to learn a bit more about how this is done and what a
>> legitimate, above-board business can do about it.
>> 
>> Ignoring the factor of third-party call-screening apps (which most
>> people with a mobile don't use), where is this generally implemented? As
>> I understand it, T-Mobile do it on the network level. I have T-Mobile
>> myself, and probably 2/3rds of unfamiliar numbers, including quite
>> legitimate ones, show up as "Scam Likely" — I know that's come up on the
>> list before. AT&T displays "Telemarketer"; do they do it that way too,
>> or do they use a Google Android feature for that which they enable as
>> part of their carrier defaults for carrier-issued phones? What about
>> other carriers and Android?
>> 
>> As far as I know, Apple don't do anything like this. Do people with
>> iPhones just not receive this "service"? How does that work?
>> 
>> Asking where the central, or the most influential authority lies and who
>> provides it goes to the heart of the real question, which is: what can a
>> legitimate business do if their number has been blacklisted this way? As
>> I understand it, the maintainers of these lists, along with the criteria
>> for getting on them, are elusive and inscrutable, and there's really no
>> recourse and no appeals process. I furthermore understand that this has
>> led to the widespread approach of rotating ANIs, but that's a losing
>> battle; they get flagged too. I imagine it won't be long before the
>> criteria for "Scam Likely" are just "number appears to call lots of
>> numbers in this rate centre and otherwise hasn't been around very long".
>> 
>> But this is all just conjecture on my part; I really don't know much
>> about how my carrier, anyone's carrier, or some BigCo that's behind my
>> mobile OS decides that a call is a "telemarketer" or "scam" call. If
>> anyone can shed some light on how this really works and what, if
>> anything can be done about it, I would be most appreciative.
>> 
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