[VoiceOps] VoIP SMS Campaign Fees

[Carlos Alvarez]

Alarmist is warranted.  I am equally perplexed by the inconsistent rules,
the vague language, and by everyone insisting that T-Mobile will
unilaterally issue $10k fines per message.  On what authority?  What is the
appeals process?  Dozens of questions, nearly no answers.

I just sent a text from one of my business numbers in response to a client
who texted it.  Is this a campaign?

The whole thing where everything that's not another cell phone is
considered automated and not P2P seems disgusting, if not actually illegal
and fraudulent.


On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 4:16 PM Oren Yehezkely <orenyny at gmail.com> wrote:

> Nate,
>
> See a thread I started a few months ago about this matter.
> I got a lot of negative responses for being an alarmist.
>
> Basically these requirements are set by the different mobile carriers and
> they are not the same.
>
> Yes, they all consider customers to be businesses (A2P). No customer is a
> consumer (P2P) in the eyes of these
> carriers, TCR and even the person who answered you before.
>
> I don't think that the penalty is $10,000 but VI may be trying to deter
> you from using SMS
> without registering. You may want to consider using a different carrier
> for SMS.
> Other carriers will also offer to help you register with TCR.
>
> Good luck with dealing with that headache, feel free to contact me off
> list to see if we can share some information
> on dealing with this.
>
> Regards,
> Oren
>
> On Mon, Nov 15, 2021 at 3:37 PM Nate Burke <nate at blastcomm.com> wrote:
>
>> Sorry if this was already discussed and I missed it.  I saw a notice on
>> our Voip Innovations account today that any business DID's that send SMS
>> messages to a consumer in any way now have to be registered with
>> 'Campaignregistry.com'  Looks like this requires a $200 signup, and then
>> potentially $10/month/DID.  Anyone already gone through this?  Talking
>> to VI, it seems they're not even sure, but it's a VI requirement to be
>> registered by Dec 15.
>>
>> The whole process seems confusing.  VI Makes it seem like non-compliance
>> will be expensive. $10,000/violation keeps being referenced.
>>
>> Would each one of my customers be considered a separate campaign at
>> $10/month?
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