[VoiceOps] Waiver request for fees for Reassigned Numbers Database

Tue Apr 5 17:58:38 EDT 2022

I've never had other companies return disconnected numbers that were 
ported away from our blocks, and never had any mechanism by which to do 
the same for our own. We just age them and reuse them.

I cannot imagine that the LNP database would be useful for anything 
other than where to route the number if dialed. The Reassigned Numbers 
Database was designed for this, so it'd be great to know when the 
numbers are disconnected.

On 4/5/22 17:38, Mary Lou Carey wrote:
> I was thinking if carriers didn't do one they wouldn't do the other. 
> Are you thinking that they may report TNs in the Re-assigned Number 
> database but still leave all their TNs in NPAC? I can see how that 
> would cause problems for the iconectiv's PortData service. Unless they 
> have a way to identify discrepancies between the RND and NPAC it would 
> be useless.
>
> MARY LOU CAREY
> BackUP Telecom Consulting
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>
> On 2022-04-04 07:49 PM, Calvin Ellison wrote:
>> I can't speak for every carrier, but I do know from experience that
>> not everyone updates NPAC when numbers are disconnected. I know of
>> CLECs that only ever programmed their 1K blocks and handled the
>> Assign/Disconnect/Age/Available lifecycle internally.
>>
>> Calvin Ellison
>>
>> Systems Architect
>>
>> calvin.ellison at voxox.com
>>
>> +1 (213) 285-0555
>>
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>> On Mon, Apr 4, 2022 at 12:37 PM Mary Lou Carey
>> <marylou at backuptelecom.com> wrote:
>>
>>> iconectiv has a service called "PortData Comply for Marketers" that
>>> you
>>> can get access to. They also offer "PortData Source for Law
>>> Enforcement"
>>> and "PortData Validate". These services require a subscription to
>>> the
>>> NPAC database, but you don't have to be a service provider to get
>>> them.
>>> As long as you're a Provider of Telecom Related Services (PTRS) or a
>>>
>>> service bureau you can qualify.
>>>
>>> MARY LOU CAREY
>>> BackUP Telecom Consulting
>>> Office: 615-791-9969
>>> Cell: 615-796-1111
>>>
>>> On 2022-04-04 11:07 AM, Calvin Ellison wrote:
>>>> More data for our Call Analytics/Anti-Robocall Filter: the
>>> Reassigned
>>>> Numbers Database. In our case, we'd want to use this for real-time
>>>> call analytics on every single ANI & DNIS that crosses our
>>> network,
>>>> querying the database using to determine if a number should be in
>>>> Aging status (disconnected within the last 45 days).
>>>>
>>>> I've asked our counsel how to "me too" this waiver. Although this
>>>> waiver calls out the "pull versus push argument", we'd need the
>>>> database on-premise in order to minimize post-dial-delay.
>>>>
>>>> Is anyone interested in filing a joint waiver?
>>>>
>>>> Calvin Ellison
>>>>
>>>> Systems Architect
>>>>
>>>> calvin.ellison at voxox.com
>>>>
>>>> +1 (213) 285-0555
>>>>
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>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>>>> Date: Fri, Apr 1, 2022 at 7:17 PM
>>>> Subject: waiver request for fees for reassigned number database
>>>> To: Calvin Ellison <calvin.ellison at voxox.com>
>>>>
>>>> Hey Calvin, check this out:
>>>>
>>>
>> https://www.neca.org/docs/default-source/wwpdf/public/33122hustle.pdf
>>>>
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