[VoiceOps] NRUF 502

Mike Hammett voiceops at ics-il.net
Wed Jan 24 02:06:38 EST 2024


Well, yes, separate, but it isn't the most intuitive thing (at least to newbies) that you report a number you don't have as assigned in NRUF. Of the available options it makes the most sense, but I'm surprised they don't have a ported out category. 




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----- Original Message -----

From: "Mary Lou Carey" <marylou at backuptelecom.com> 
To: "Mike Hammett" <voiceops at ics-il.net> 
Cc: voiceops at voiceops.org 
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2024 12:37:25 PM 
Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] NRUF 502 

The NRUF only pertains to BLOCKS assigned to your OCN. Returning blocks 
in NPAC only pertains to TNs you've ported to your LRN that you no 
longer use. You mixed up the third component of reporting disconnects. 
That's done in the RND database and those should be reported monthly. 

All 3 are totally separate from each other and used for different 
purposes. 

- NRUF it to report number utilization and forecasting of NXX blocks 
- NPAC is the database used for porting telephone numbers 
-RND is used for reporting numbers that are disconnected. In my opinion, 
if the numbering administration was smart they would track the ported 
TNs no longer in use in the RND database so the original carrier can 
reclaim the numbers that are no longer being used because a lot of TNs 
get lost when the customer disconnects but they are not returned to the 
original carrier. 

MARY LOU CAREY 
BackUP Telecom Consulting 
Office: 615-791-9969 
Cell: 615-796-1111 

On 2024-01-22 06:11 PM, Mike Hammett via VoiceOps wrote: 
> I'm just learning about NRUF 502. 
> 
> As I read the documentation (and some Googling): 
> 
> Every phone number in the blocks I have are either Assigned, 
> Intermediate, Reserved, Aging, or Administrative. 
> Ported out numbers count as assigned. 
> Returned ported numbers are available. 
> I do this for blocks that I got from NANPA. 
> I do not do it for ported numbers. 
> 
> I'm supposed to be able to tell in Neustar SOA what numbers have 
> disconnected. I've reached out to them to figure out how to do that. I 
> couldn't find documentation that was direct enough for me to know it 
> was the right thing. 
> 
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