[cisco-voip] CME to CUBE config

[Bill Riley]

Correct. I think we are all on the same page. If both call legs are VOIP then you need a CUBE or IP-IP GW license. If one end of the call is POTS and the other is VOIP, including a SIP dial-peer to a CUCM SIP trunk, then you don’t need a CUBE license.  If you are getting your PSTN connectivity from a SIP Trunk then both ends are VOIP and you need the CUBE License. 

 

From: matthn at gmail.com [mailto:matthn at gmail.com] On Behalf Of Nick Matthews
Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 5:20 PM
To: Bill Riley
Cc: James Buchanan; cisco-voip
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CME to CUBE config

 

This is more of a terminology thing.  When I refer to a SIP trunk I was referring to a SIP provider.  Using a SIP gateway (TDM-SIP) doesn't require a license.  SIP is tricky business :)

If you want to have an exact definition it's something more-or-less like this:  A CUBE is a router that is doing IP-IP between systems.  This can be a mixture of H.323, SIP, and SCCP.  Any time you do that, you need a CUBE license.  The exception is something like two CMEs networked together with a CUE involved, where you do actually use H.323-SIP or SIP-SIP.  The reason I include SCCP in the list of protocols for CUBE is for the CME case, where you're doing SCCP-SIP.  Even then, if you are doing something like a SCCP controlled FXS port with CUCM using SIP to a gateway, you wouldn't need a CUBE license.  This is why I used a 'basic guideline' in my original post, because it's often misconceived because of these details.

-nick

On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 5:32 PM, Bill Riley <bill at hitechconnection.net> wrote:

I don’t think you need a cube license if you are setting your dial-peer to use SIP and have it terminate on CUCM. If you are getting the original calling leg from a TDM interface and sending it via SIP to CUCM I don’t think you need the CUBE license. IT is only if both call legs on the router come in as VOIP, as long as one is a POTS leg you are fine. 

 

 

From: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Nick Matthews
Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 3:54 PM
To: James Buchanan


Cc: cisco-voip
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CME to CUBE config

 

Some of this is true, some not.

Basic guideline - any time you have a SIP trunk you need a CUBE.  This includes CME, CUCM, CUCM-SME, etc.

Any time you have a CUBE (CME, 2800/3800, 2900/3900, ASR) you need licensing.

The licensing is not enforced on any platform, but there are plans.  CUSP is licensed and enforced however.

-nick

2010/9/12 James Buchanan <jbuchanan at ctiusa.com>

That’s not the case. CME even with the 2900s has the license needed to do SIP trunks to the PSTN.

 

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CCIE #25863, Voice

 

From: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Gregory Wenzel
Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 2:40 PM
To: Barış Gülten
Cc: cisco-voip
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CME to CUBE config

 

2800 series.this is true....2900/3900 series need cube license is: expensive. I think we quoted 75 sip sessions cost  $6,000.00

On Sep 10, 2010 8:14 AM, "Barış Gülten" <barisgulten at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi, CME not need CUBE license, CME can do outside sip trunk.
> 
> Here is the example. 
> 
> 
> 
> Voice service voip 
> 
> address-hiding
> 
> allow-connections h323 to h323
> 
> allow-connections h323 to sip
> 
> allow-connections sip to h323
> 
> allow-connections sip to sip
> 
> supplementary-service h450.12
> 
> h323
> 
> sip
> 
> bind control source-interface Loopback0
> 
> bind media source-interface Loopback0
> 
> registrar server expires max 3600 min 3600
> 
> !
> 
> voice class codec 1
> 
> codec preference 1 g729r8
> 
> !
> 
> 
> 
> interface Loopback0
> 
> ip address xx.xx.xx.xx 255.255.255.252 /real ip
> 
> !
> 
> 
> 
> dial-peer voice 90 voip
> 
> corlist outgoing call-international
> 
> preference 1
> 
> destination-pattern 00T
> 
> voice-class codec 1
> 
> session protocol sipv2
> 
> session target ipv4:62.244.205.100
> 
> dtmf-relay rtp-nte
> 
> clid network-number 0232xxxxxxx
> 
> !
> 
> 
> 
> Best regards, Baris.
> 
> 
> 
> From: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Marty van de Veerdonk
> Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 1:08 PM
> To: cisco-voip
> Subject: [cisco-voip] CME to CUBE config
> 
> 
> 
> Hello,
> can somebody help me with a (example) config for a CME <-> CUBE setup?
> 
> Many thanks!
> 
> regards, Marty
> 


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