[cisco-voip] Call Manager 7.0.1 Hardware Swap

Wed Feb 2 08:57:44 EST 2011

...or doesn't want to spend almost a million dollars upgrading a telephone system that is working perfectly fine just because it was end of life'ed. ;)

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On Feb 2, 2011, at 8:51 AM, "Churchill, Jason" <Jason.Churchill at uxcconnect.com.au> wrote:

> Yup good idea. We may also have a spare server we can use for an ‘intermediate’ server to transition the solution from 7.0.1 through to 7.1.5 on the new hardware.
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> I guess this is going to be a big problem going forward with the linux os’s. Since you can’t always buy the same hardware 1,2 or 3 years later, what if the customer doesn’t want to upgrade or can’t upgrade due to 3rd party apps that are plugged into the cluster, but they may be forced to since the hardware they have to purchase (to replace the old hardware) will not support the old software.
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> From: Lelio Fulgenzi [mailto:lelio at uoguelph.ca] 
> Sent: Thursday, 3 February 2011 12:47 AM
> To: Churchill, Jason
> Cc: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Call Manager 7.0.1 Hardware Swap
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> No problems. I just checked the inventory (for Canada) and there were quite a few MCS servers available. Some fairly cheap. As long as the 7.0(1) DVD and software support it, it doesn't matter how small the server is, i.e. a 7916 should do fine. 
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> Oh, another approach is to ask the account team for something from their demo pool. That might also be an option. 
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> On Feb 2, 2011, at 8:42 AM, "Churchill, Jason" <Jason.Churchill at uxcconnect.com.au> wrote:
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> Yup all good points. So I will check out the possibility of arranging some extra disks for the server, just in case we need to restore the subscriber.
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> Will look into a refurbished server as well. Thanks for the comments. Much appreciated.
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> From: Lelio Fulgenzi [mailto:lelio at uoguelph.ca] 
> Sent: Thursday, 3 February 2011 12:38 AM
> To: Churchill, Jason
> Cc: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Call Manager 7.0.1 Hardware Swap
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> I would also try to use different disks jus in case you need to bring the sub into production again. 
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> And consider buying a used server off the grey market. 
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> Cisco has refurbished equipment for sale as well. 
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> http://www.cisco.com/web/ordering/ciscocapital/refurbished/index.html
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> You can log in and check the inventory. 
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> On Feb 2, 2011, at 8:32 AM, "Churchill, Jason" <Jason.Churchill at uxcconnect.com.au> wrote:
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> Not a problem at all.
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> That is certainly one idea. I could retire the Subscriber, rebuild it to a new publisher, DRR import the 7.01, then upgrade to 7.1.5. Defiantly a good idea.
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> Anyone know of any other way?
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> From: Lelio Fulgenzi [mailto:lelio at uoguelph.ca] 
> Sent: Thursday, 3 February 2011 12:29 AM
> To: Lelio Fulgenzi
> Cc: Churchill, Jason; cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Call Manager 7.0.1 Hardware Swap
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> Sorry, I realize now there was a bit more to your issue than just booting the new hardware. 
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> Could you take on of the old servers offline and build it new from v7.0.1, upgrade it, and then back up and restore to the new cluster?
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> On Feb 2, 2011, at 8:24 AM, Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca> wrote:
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> You'll need to buy a media kit. About $150 bucks list I think. Min version for new servers is 7.1(3b) I believe. 
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> On Feb 2, 2011, at 8:18 AM, "Churchill, Jason" <Jason.Churchill at uxcconnect.com.au> wrote:
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> I have a quick question for the list. I have to perform an upgrade for my customer. They have old 7825H2 and H3 servers which are currently running CUCM 7.0.1
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> New hard ware has been purchased by them and we have been asked to complete the migration from their current server hardware to the new hardware. During this move we will move them to the latest stable release of CUCM 7.1.5
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> The process we were going to follow was to take a DRS backup for the current 7.01 system, restore to the new hardware with 7.01 installed, upgrade to 7.02 then to 7.1.5. However when I put the dvd of CUCM 7.0.1 into the new IBM MCS servers, it will not detect the hardware or any devices on the system. Only the keyboard and video display works. This leaves me to believe that since the 7.0.1 DVD was made back in 2008, the new IBM hardware drivers are not loaded on the install disk, and therefore the system can’t detect the drivers to allow the install to continue.
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> So I was wondering what everyone would do in this situation? Does cisco provide an updated 7.0.1 bootable DVD that can be used on the new servers? As DRS can only restore to the same version on the new server, we either have to:
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> At all possible costs, we would like to avoid upgrading the live system to 7.1.5 on box, as the current system is pretty unstable. However this may be the only viable way forward.
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> Can anyone suggest any other ways of getting around this issue?
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