[f-nsp] difference between NI-CES & CER devices?

Ryan Otis Ryan.Otis at WebTrends.com
Tue Jun 1 11:23:19 EDT 2010


The CER has significantly more CAM and can take up to 512,000 IPv4 routes.  The CES can only carry 32,000 IPv4 routes in its FIB.

-Ryan

From: foundry-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net [mailto:foundry-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Vladimir Litovka
Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 12:28 AM
To: Brian Stadtmiller; foundry-nsp at puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [f-nsp] difference between NI-CES & CER devices?

Brian hi,

as datasheet says, CES supports two software licenses kits:

1) ME_PREM supports rich set of Ethernet capabilities: PB, PBB, EOAM; from MPLS side only VPLS/VLL supported and subset of L3 (no BGP)
2) L3_PREM is just pure L3 switch (BASE + full L3 incl. Multi-VRF)

On the other hand, CER supports everything above and full MPLS suite in ADV_SVC_PREM. Looks like they are similar in hardware, difference just in positioning, exactly like for Cisco's 6500 (switching platform) and 7600 (routing platform).

Any comments on this?
On 1 June 2010 04:16, Brian Stadtmiller <brian at terabitsystems.net<mailto:brian at terabitsystems.net>> wrote:
Good question, because I have the NI-CES-2024C-MEPREM-AC in stock which has the “metro edge prem” license on it,
So is this the same as a base CER?  Typically “S” is for switch aka L2 and “R” is for router aka L3 in the foundry world,
But PREM is also L3 and then metro-edge prem(?), now I am getting a little confused.

Here is from the price list CES portion:

“The NetIron CES 2000 Series of switches is a family of 1 RU fixed form factor Layer 3 edge/aggregation switches that is purpose built for advanced Carrier Ethernet, metro edge/aggregation and high-end data center applications. These switches deliver wire-speed 24-port and 48-port 10/100/1000 Mbps or 100/1000
SFP to 10GbE aggregation in a compact, fixed-configuration 1 RU form factor. With support for upto 2 optional 10GbE ports, the NetIron CES 2000 Series of
switches provide a smooth migration from Gigabit Ethernet to 10-Gigabit Ethernet.
The NetIron CES 2000 series switches are MEF certified and designed to deliver an optimized set of Layer 2, IPv4 and Advanced Layer 2 services based on
Provider Bridging (PB) and Provider Backbone Bridging (PBB). The NetIron CES 2000 Series switches are powered by Foundry's proven Multi-Service IronWare
operating system software.
The BASE software package in the NetIron CES 2000 Series comes with the classic Layer 2 capabilities, ACLs, basic Layer 3 capabilities (static routing, RIP
v1/v2, VRRP, VRRP-E), QoS capabilities and management support. Upgrade packages are available for:
- Layer 3 Premium software package (including OSPFv2, BGPv4, IS-IS) in addition to the capabilities in the BASE software package and
- Metro Edge Premium software package (including PB, PBB, 802.1ag CFM, Ethernet Service Instance ESI framework)
All units ship with a console cable and US power cord unless otherwise specified at time of order. All orders include one (1) integral power supply, manual on
CD-ROM, and rack ears affixed to the unit. These switches are upgradeable with one redundant, hot-swappable power supply.”

brian

From: foundry-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net<mailto:foundry-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net> [mailto:foundry-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net<mailto:foundry-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net>] On Behalf Of Vladimir Litovka
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Subject: [f-nsp] difference between NI-CES & CER devices?

Colleagues hi

looking in datasheets of NI-CES and -CER devices and see the only notable difference between them which is software capabilities - looks like CES is more oriented on L2 applications (incl. VPLS), while CER is "CES + fully functional MPLS edge". Right? Any other differences?

Thank you.

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