[VoiceOps] Request to block number?

Wed Sep 20 13:04:45 EDT 2023

 List messages often arrive out of order for me, and I think that happened
here.  I may have been misquoting.  But yeah, I’ve never heard of a law
against sharing lawful recordings.

I think it should be legal for me to publicize recordings of me harassing
scammers, right?

On Sep 20, 2023 at 9:07:22 AM, Alex Balashov via VoiceOps <
voiceops at voiceops.org> wrote:

> I thought I stated the recording law accurately?
>
> I think Henning was inquiring not so much about the legality of recording
> per se (which you have accurately addressed) as publicising the recording.
> As far as I know, US state and federal laws do not have a specific statute
> against this as long as the recording was legally made in the first place.
>
> -- Alex
>
> On Sep 20, 2023, at 12:03 PM, Carlos Alvarez via VoiceOps <
> voiceops at voiceops.org> wrote:
>
>
> I’m surprised that you’re not aware of the laws on this (or lack of).
> There are only a small number of states with all party consent laws, most
> are single party.  You just can’t record a third-party conversation where
> you are not involved, and they don’t know you’re recording.
>
>
> It leads to a complexity that I’m trying to help a customer with now.
> What if someone in AZ (single party) calls a person in CA (all party)?
> Further, what if the server is in AZ, but the caller is in an all party
> state, and they call a single party state?  Etc.
>
>
>
> On Sep 20, 2023 at 2:16:02 AM, Alex Balashov via VoiceOps <
> voiceops at voiceops.org> wrote:
>
> > Under US law, if the recording was obtained lawfully (that is, if
> consent was obtained from both parties, or if the US state in question does
> it require consent from both parties, only one party), there is no specific
> prohibition against publicising it that I'm aware of.
>
> >
>
> > —
>
> > Sent from mobile, apologies for brevity and errors.
>
> >
>
> >> On Sep 20, 2023, at 3:52 AM, Henning Westerholt via VoiceOps <
> voiceops at voiceops.org> wrote:
>
> >>
>
> >>  Hello,
>
> >>
>
> >> kind of interesting that you post a recording of incoming call publicly
> on this list. For the record, I did not listen to it.
>
> >> Under German law this would be probably a criminal offence with a
> penalty of 2 up to 5 years prison, depending on your position and how
> serious the infringement is.
>
> >>
>
> >> About the US laws you know of course better, I was just surprised.
>
> >>
>
> >> Cheers,
>
> >>
>
> >> Henning
>
> >>
>
> >> --
>
> >> Henning Westerholt – https://skalatan.de/blog/
>
> >> Kamailio services – https://gilawa.com
>
> >>
>
> >> From: VoiceOps <voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org> On Behalf Of
> Christopher Aloi via VoiceOps
>
> >> Sent: Dienstag, 19. September 2023 19:32
>
> >> To: Carlos Alvarez <caalvarez at gmail.com>
>
> >> Cc: VoiceOps <voiceops at voiceops.org>
>
> >> Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] Request to block number?
>
> >>
>
> >> Here is another link if that one didn't work -
>
> >>
>
> >>
> https://www.icloud.com/iclouddrive/0dff3yxAUUyWu_Nd9ddlMGY8w#2023%5FSeptember%5F19%5F095014%5FEST-EDT%5FInbound%5F4845791377%5F7169616161%5F714
>
> >>
>
> >> On Tue, Sep 19, 2023 at 1:19 PM Christopher Aloi <ctaloi at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >> I appreciate the concern, and the thought crossed our minds.  He called
> twice and once ended up in sales and once in support and he didn't seem to
> be interested in who he spoke with.
>
> >>
>
> >> Here is a recording of the call..
>
> >>
>
> >>
> https://vaspian-my.sharepoint.com/personal/caloi_vaspian_com/_layouts/15/stream.aspx?id=%2Fpersonal%2Fcaloi%5Fvaspian%5Fcom%2FDocuments%2F2023%5FSeptember%5F19%5F095014%5FEST%2DEDT%5FInbound%5F4845791377%5F7169616161%5F714%2Emp3&ga=1
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >> On Tue, Sep 19, 2023 at 1:12 PM Carlos Alvarez via VoiceOps <
> voiceops at voiceops.org> wrote:
>
> >> Is it possible that he’s fixated on a specific employee?  Not to be
> alarmist, but it’s worth asking around.  I once had a situation where I
> noticed some crazy calling activity in a log, just by coincidence, and
> found that an employee was being stalked/harassed.
>
> >>
>
> >> On Sep 19, 2023 at 10:08:33 AM, Christopher Aloi via VoiceOps <
> voiceops at voiceops.org> wrote:
>
> >> Ha!  He did say "he has no self control".  Maybe just someone with some
> mental challenges.
>
> >>
>
> >> On Tue, Sep 19, 2023 at 1:05 PM Alex Balashov via VoiceOps <
> voiceops at voiceops.org> wrote:
>
> >> Does your company provide anything of interests to addicts, or anyone
> with a compulsive habit they are trying to kick? (e.g. compulsive shopping
> for new VoIP handsets)
>
> >>
>
> >> > On Sep 19, 2023, at 12:52 PM, Christopher Aloi via VoiceOps <
> voiceops at voiceops.org> wrote:
>
> >> >
>
> >> > Hey All,
>
> >> >
>
> >> > I have a new one.
>
> >> >
>
> >> > We (hosted phone provider) have received three calls today from an
> individual asking us to block him from calling our company.  I can't figure
> out his end game.  He's tried multiple times and didn't explain why when
> questioned.  He said multiple times he wanted his number to be blocked from
> calling our company.
>
> >> >
>
> >> > Thoughts?
>
> >> >
>
> >> > Could it be a social engineering attempt?  What for?
>
> >> >
>
> >> > Chris
>
> >> >
>
> >> >
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